***Official*** Super Series

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And the naked eye bio mechanic specialists are back.

Sorry mate, but the super slo-mo enhancement of Murali's action is damning. It's embarrassing (or are they merely taking the ****?) that Channel 9 have now decided to use it in their promos.

Im glad he's playing and not being ridiculed (at least his countrymen can be proud that he's he's in the World X1), but Im just as happy that he's not taking any wickets.

 

[Scaly piscine]

Sorry mate, but the super slo-mo enhancement of Murali's action is damning. It's embarrassing (or are they merely taking the ****?) that Channel 9 have now decided to use it in their promos.

'enhancement' hmm...

 

[greg]

Common sense is of the opinion that Pathan averages over 47 in Tests against teams other than Zimbabwe and Bangladesh. England did fine against Australia without a left-arm seamer, anyway.

We had the King of Spain

 

[Slow Love™]

Confirms that he is an idiot. A funny idiot, but an idiot none the less.

Oh and Vaas happens to be a left arm bowler, and someone far superior to Pathan.

Hahaha... An occasionally funny idiot at that.

BTW, what IS the deal with Vaas' non-selection? He was named just the other day in the "Official ICC World XI Test Team of the Year", and he's the 6th best test bowler in the world, according to the ICC rankings (with two Aussie bowlers in front of him, and well ahead of Harmison). It all seems very weird. Probably even more surprising when it comes to the ODIs.

 

[greg]

Sorry mate, but the super slo-mo enhancement of Murali's action is damning. It's embarrassing (or are they merely taking the ****?) that Channel 9 have now decided to use it in their promos.

Im glad he's playing and not being ridiculed (at least his countrymen can be proud that he's he's in the World X1), but Im just as happy that he's not taking any wickets.

I know, it's just a fundamental problem with the whole process for dealing with dodgy actions. It just can't deal with people who bowl with markedly different actions every ball - what's to stop them just going off to Western Australia and bowling in testing with an action that is acceptable?

IMO the only way the whole thing can be made to practically work, is if the 'corrected' actions are required to be massively inside the 15 degree limit. The idea that they can "get it down to 12 degrees" and then that's ok is ridiculous.

 

[Deja moo]

Sorry mate, but the super slo-mo enhancement of Murali's action is damning. It's embarrassing (or are they merely taking the ****?) that Channel 9 have now decided to use it in their promos.

Im glad he's playing and not being ridiculed (at least his countrymen can be proud that he's he's in the World X1), but Im just as happy that he's not taking any wickets.

yeah, Ive seen those promos today ( we get the same feed here ), it does look really bent in the slo-mo. But then it didnt seem greater than 15 degrees, with the naked eye atleast, and it doesnt straighten after that too.

 

[shaka]

Smith must feel like he is in heaven by having two spinners at his disposal

 

[Adamc]

We had the King of Spain

Look, I know he doesn't turn it much, but it's a bit of an insult to call him a seamer.

 

[BoyBrumby]

Smith must feel like he is in heaven by having two spinners at his disposal

Equally tho, I bet he's cursing the selectors for lumbering him with just the two proper seamers. You just know it wasn't his shout to leave his Saffie mate Pollock out.

 

[Adamc]

And the naked eye bio mechanic specialists are back.

The major problem is simply that most people don't understand the law - they think the mere fact that Murali's (or any other bowler's) arm is bent at the point of delivery suffices to render it illegal. In actual fact it doesn't matter if the bowler's arm is bent at 2 degrees, 15 degrees or 137 degrees, so long as it doesn't straighten more than fifteen degrees. The naked eye simply cannot distinguish with any accuracy the difference between 12 degrees of straightening and 15 degrees. It's quite possible that Murali does exceed the 15 degrees of straightening, but for people to say unequivocally, simply by watching on TV (even with the super slow-mo), that he does so is ridiculous.

A classic example of this misunderstanding is when Barry Jarman supposedly took a protractor to a picture of Murali bowling in a newspaper, measured the bend in Murali's arm at 47 degrees (or whatever it was), and declared it a throw. How is it possible to determine how much his arm straightened from a single frame? By that definition of a throw, Paul Adams (along with dozens of other spinners) would be regarded as a 'chucker'.

Meh, this debate has been done to death so I'll leave it at that, just frustrating that people can't seem to distinguish between 'throwing' and 'bowling with a bent arm'.

 

[sqwerty]

Watson at 6 and Gilly at 7?? Bet freddy is licking his lips........

maybe...but he's getting a taste of what it's like to bowl to Aussies in Australia. Different game

 

[shaka]

more like Gilly 6 and Watson 7, Freddie too tired by that stage.

 

[sqwerty]

I haven't really been following the match so I just noticed the World XI lineup, no Pollock? Seems rather foolish to me to go into a Test match in Australia with one specialist seamer, even if it is the SCG. The World XI selectors showing a bit too much faith in Kallis' bowling ability I guess. At least it'll keep JASON relatively happy.

It's called politics.......can't bring a disgruntled Pakistani over here.......then make him 12th man.

Nothing against Imzi though

 

[social]

The major problem is simply that most people don't understand the law - they think the mere fact that Murali's (or any other bowler's) arm is bent at the point of delivery suffices to render it illegal. In actual fact it doesn't matter if the bowler's arm is bent at 2 degrees, 15 degrees or 137 degrees, so long as it doesn't straighten more than fifteen degrees. The naked eye simply cannot distinguish with any accuracy the difference between 12 degrees of straightening and 15 degrees. It's quite possible that Murali does exceed the 15 degrees of straightening, but for people to say unequivocally, simply by watching on TV (even with the super slow-mo), that he does so is ridiculous.

A classic example of this misunderstanding is when Barry Jarman supposedly took a protractor to a picture of Murali bowling in a newspaper, measured the bend in Murali's arm at 47 degrees (or whatever it was), and declared it a throw. How is it possible to determine how much his arm straightened from a single frame? By that definition of a throw, Paul Adams (along with dozens of other spinners) would be regarded as a 'chucker'.

Meh, this debate has been done to death so I'll leave it at that, just frustrating that people can't seem to distinguish between 'throwing' and 'bowling with a bent arm'.

It has been done to death but the issue wont go away until he has been banned.

BTW, it's not about bowling with a bent arm, Murali ****s his arm and then straightens it alarmingly.

He's the most blatant (and succesful) chucker in the history of the game and politics dictates that we have to put up with it.

I find it ironic that Darrel Hair is acting as the 3rd umpire and only has 2 buttons at his disposal, neither of which are labelled "no-ball".

We can only hope that Gilly continues to deposit him further and further back into the stands.

Having said the above, I'll never mention it again and will ignore him in all future references.

 

[sqwerty]

Hayden & Gilchrist need big scores here since Australia's most likely total may be around 350.

Don't worry...they'll deliver

 

[sqwerty]

For mine, Clarke was definitely gone. The twist of the bat was, from what I saw, caused by ball on the shoulder of his bat. Yes there was pad in the way but it's rarely a coincidence that at the exact moment the ball enters that area, the bat moves in that way, particularly since there was enough daylight between the top of the pad and the shoulder of the bat to indicate that the bat didn't get caught on it. That in combination with the Snicko was enough for me. Certainly it appeared Rudi would have given it out if there was no 3rd umpire but decided to check it anyway.

Kat was very unlucky to be run-out. Bad luck with Murali getting in the way but it was a very risky single and in that situation, to make it, you can't have the slightest thing slow you down. Just bad luck, really. Murali certainly can't be blamed for it.

And I think I'll not be the first to nominate Harmi's third ball as the ball of the summer. Very tough one to cope with early on and it was just great stuff.

good ball...but ordinary shot...could have driven a truck through there. I reckon Langer was surprised by the swing

 

[sqwerty]

Anyone else not really excited by this?

Usually I can watch a test match between any two sides in the world (except Zim & Bang). But I am really struggling to get in to this series, just seems to be missing something.

good atmosphere at the game....not like Jan 2 but good for early season. Sat/Sun will be close to full.

 

[sqwerty]

Thoughts on the first day.

1. World X1 were lucky that McGrath didnt have first use of the wicket.

2. Hayden was excellent.

3. Ponting - you idiot.

4. Gilchrist - genius.

5. Technology

Based on the evidence we saw (and Im led to believe that we see everything that the 3rd umpire does):

a. Hayden was out padding up to Harmy (fortunately given not out as Hawkeye shows the ball going over the top);

b. Clarke - horrible decision (didnt hit it from any angle);

c. Katich - great decision (past the crease but bat in the air);

d. Watson - great decision (unlikely to be given out without technology); and

e. Murali - confirmed chucker (appalling that he is allowed to bowl).

1. Interesting - Couldn't tell from where I was sitting but seemed to play ok

2. Agree

3. Very soft dismissal....was doing it too easy for his own good.

4. Showed Ashes was a hiccup....different game in Aus

5. Frustrating at the game when you don't get any replays while they are reviewing it or even after decision is made.

a. ?

b.?

c.?

d.?

e. Given up caring about it

 

[GotSpin]

maybe...but he's getting a taste of what it's like to bowl to Aussies in Australia. Different game

Should of heard what the Abc commentators were saying about the english bowlers

 

[sqwerty]

This certainly doesnt have the same flavour as a regular test match... theres somthing missing, like somebody else said. I even fell asleep at one point.

Gee, Clarke looked amazing today. What an absolute shame he got out when he did.

Bit hard for it to look like a regular test match after getting used to that Ashes series. They weren't regular test matches

Looked like a regular test match to me....Australia dominating with the bat on day 1......it was only several soft dismissals that stopped it being another complete annihilation