***Official*** Super Series

[sqwerty]

Kerry O'Keefe was of the opinion on ABC radio this morning that Pathan should have played as he felt you always need a left arm pace bowler against Australia.

except during ashes series

 

[sqwerty]

I know, it's just a fundamental problem with the whole process for dealing with dodgy actions. It just can't deal with people who bowl with markedly different actions every ball - what's to stop them just going off to Western Australia and bowling in testing with an action that is acceptable?

IMO the only way the whole thing can be made to practically work, is if the 'corrected' actions are required to be massively inside the 15 degree limit. The idea that they can "get it down to 12 degrees" and then that's ok is ridiculous.

agree....who's measuring anyway?

 

[sqwerty]

Should of heard what the Abc commentators were saying about the english bowlers

what?

 

[wpdavid]

Equally tho, I bet he's cursing the selectors for lumbering him with just the two proper seamers. You just know it wasn't his shout to leave his Saffie mate Pollock out.

It looked daft beforehand, and it looks no better now.
How did Harmison bowl today?

 

[GotSpin]

what?

Something about Harmison and Flintoff not being that good on Australian pitches, less reserve swing because of the ball. And that Harmison only looked good in the first session because of the bounce, and once that went he had nothing. They said something similiar with flintoff, once he saw he couldnt swing or reverse he just banged the ball in, hoping for some extra bounce. And that they will get a shock when they come to Australia, and though England are closing the gap on Australia , Australia are still fairly unbeatable on its home soil

 

[greg]

Should of heard what the Abc commentators were saying about the english bowlers

Were they back claiming they were rubbish again? Shame. Better luck next time

 

[social]

1. Interesting - Couldn't tell from where I was sitting but seemed to play ok

2. Agree

3. Very soft dismissal....was doing it too easy for his own good.

4. Showed Ashes was a hiccup....different game in Aus

5. Frustrating at the game when you don't get any replays while they are reviewing it or even after decision is made.

a. ?

b.?

c.?

d.?

e. Given up caring about it

a. Looked at an lbw from all angles but ignored hawkeye i.e. was it going to hit the stumps? . Having seen that, the decision was elementary.

b. Missed it on all replays but given out.

c. Bat was over the line but in the air.

d. Long hop from round the wicket. Generally dismissed out of hand but replays showed that it pitched in line and would have hit the stumps.

e. Belatedly, I've come to the same conclusion.

 

[shankar]

He's the most blatant (and succesful) chucker in the history of the game and politics dictates that we have to put up with it.

Yup, Much better when the bowlers chuck discreetly and keep us fooled.

 

[honestbharani]

Snicko suggested that he didnt hit it!

Given what the public saw (and Im only assuming that the 3rd umpire doesnt have another angle), there is no way that it was out.

Anyway, despite all the technology, would the result have been any different.

With the naked eye:

1. Hayden - out

2. Clarke - out

3. Katich - not out

4. Murali - horrible

End result - 2 wickets, 1 illegal bowling action same as technology just different players

U have any idea about the chucking issue? Maybe we should all ban McGrath, Gillespie and Lee as well... Lee chucks his stock delivery at an angle greater than Murali. And do you have any idea why the 15 degree was brought out?

 

[social]

Yup, Much better when the bowlers chuck discreetly and keep us fooled.

Huh??

On second thoughts, dont bother.

 

[honestbharani]

I know, it's just a fundamental problem with the whole process for dealing with dodgy actions. It just can't deal with people who bowl with markedly different actions every ball - what's to stop them just going off to Western Australia and bowling in testing with an action that is acceptable?

IMO the only way the whole thing can be made to practically work, is if the 'corrected' actions are required to be massively inside the 15 degree limit. The idea that they can "get it down to 12 degrees" and then that's ok is ridiculous.

Actually, the guys there make sure that the bowlers bowl with their normal actions. And anyways, that footage is available if you wanna check it out. I saw the pictures of Murali bowling for the test and he bowled his doosra the same he does in the matches. Even the degree guys have confirmed it. The same way, the guys there were able to realize that Shabbir tends to chuck more than the prescribed limit when he is tired and has a bowled a lot of overs. Apparently, his action sort of disintegrates a little bit.

 

[honestbharani]

It has been done to death but the issue wont go away until he has been banned.

BTW, it's not about bowling with a bent arm, Murali ****s his arm and then straightens it alarmingly.

He's the most blatant (and succesful) chucker in the history of the game and politics dictates that we have to put up with it.

I find it ironic that Darrel Hair is acting as the 3rd umpire and only has 2 buttons at his disposal, neither of which are labelled "no-ball".

We can only hope that Gilly continues to deposit him further and further back into the stands.

Having said the above, I'll never mention it again and will ignore him in all future references.

Maybe we should ban all bowlers except Sarwan. That would please the batting community mightily.

 

[social]

Maybe we should ban all bowlers except Sarwan. That would please the batting community mightily.

Whatever.

There's a reason why he's regarded as a bad joke amongst ex-cricketers and it was in full display today.

 

[shankar]

Huh??

On second thoughts, dont bother.

Everyone (bar Sarwan) 'chucks' according to the old rules. Only Murali does so blatantly while with the others it's not obvious. Thus by banning him we can happily pretend that there's no problem.

 

[honestbharani]

Whatever.

There's a reason why he's regarded as a bad joke amongst ex-cricketers and it was in full display today.

The idiots who regard as a bad joke weren't even half as good as him, unfortunately. And some of them have been shown up to be the same bad joke themselves.

 

[social]

The idiots who regard as a bad joke weren't even half as good as him, unfortunately. And some of them have been shown up to be the same bad joke themselves.

1. Most lethal bowler Ive ever seen - Thomson 74 - 76

2. Best bowler - Imran

3. Best contemporary - McGrath

4. Best spinner - Warne

5. Best wicket taker - Murali

Respect - 1 - 4.

Change your opinion on 1 - 4, but the fact remains the same.

50% of the cricketing world respects Murali, the other 50% totally disregards him.

 

[Scaly piscine]

Should of heard what the Abc commentators were saying about the english bowlers

...

Something about Harmison and Flintoff not being that good on Australian pitches, less reserve swing because of the ball. And that Harmison only looked good in the first session because of the bounce, and once that went he had nothing. They said something similiar with flintoff, once he saw he couldnt swing or reverse he just banged the ball in, hoping for some extra bounce. And that they will get a shock when they come to Australia, and though England are closing the gap on Australia , Australia are still fairly unbeatable on its home soil

I wonder what the Abc commentators expected Harmison to do when there's no movement or bounce... spin the ball a foot?

Anyway sounds like Harmison was a bit unlucky to only take one wicket according to the number of plays and misses in the CricInfo commentary, hopefully he can polish the tail off with the new ball on day 2.

 

[Deja moo]

Whatever.

There's a reason why he's regarded as a bad joke amongst ex-cricketers and it was in full display today.

The reason being that they're egoistic creatures who think they know all there is to know about the issue simply because they've played the game with some degree of proficiency ? The bio-mechanic experts know this stuff much better than any has-been protractor weilding cricketer who simply presents his ill-formed opinions to a public which treats every word he utters as gospel. Besides you simply cannot target Murali without reserving similar treatment for bowlers like Lee and virtually everyone else who have been proven to be no better when it comes to legitimacy of bowling actions.

 

[Dasa]

Whatever.

There's a reason why he's regarded as a bad joke amongst ex-cricketers and it was in full display today.

What a fantastic argument you make. I'll have to remember that for my next retort. "Whatever" - just brilliant.

 

[greg]

Actually, the guys there make sure that the bowlers bowl with their normal actions. And anyways, that footage is available if you wanna check it out. I saw the pictures of Murali bowling for the test and he bowled his doosra the same he does in the matches. Even the degree guys have confirmed it. The same way, the guys there were able to realize that Shabbir tends to chuck more than the prescribed limit when he is tired and has a bowled a lot of overs. Apparently, his action sort of disintegrates a little bit.

Precisely, so what's the point? How are they going to prevent him getting tired?