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***Official*** Stanford Super Series

Goughy

Hall of Fame Member
England are the biggest joke, have an opportunity to make so much money and all they can do is whinge. No one forced anyone to go. Sympathy? Lol.
I can see that. TBH, I wouldnt call them a joke but there is a lot of whinging over what appears to be very little wrong.

I think the primary reason is that England has always been run differently to the other countries. This is one of the few times they have been whored out.

All the other nations have been whored out for decades. Meaningless tounaments here, overly long events there, short profit making trips everywhere etc

The English have always have quite a structured calander and a domestic season that dominates world cricket due to its geographical location.

Give it a year or so and the England players will be more used to becoming products and more realxed in enjoying the fruits of their labour.
 

pup11

International Coach
That's Stanford's thing. If you look at pics from games played a few months back just between Carribean teams, they're all black also.
They're Stanford's own distinctive bats. He makes everyone use them for all of his tournaments.
Haha what a moron, i guess he wants to make cricket bats to look more like baseball bats so he can break into the American market.
 

pup11

International Coach
Stanford unfazed by criticism
Andrew Miller in Antigua

October 30, 2008

Allen Stanford has responded to the mounting criticism that his Super Series in Antigua has attracted over the past couple of days, and has told the naysayers to judge the whole concept after the series is done and dusted.

"I think you make your assessment after Saturday's game," Stanford told Cricinfo ahead of the penultimate match of the tournament between the Superstars and Middlesex. "After Saturday I think there are going to be a lot of people who are very favourably impressed by what we're doing here, and what we're doing for cricket in the Caribbean."

US$20 million may be a lot of money to pump into a single contest, but Stanford said that his intentions were three-fold. "We're doing our best to get cricket back in the Caribbean, and we're doing in a way that has a business model to make money. The third thing is, I want to have a little fun along the way."

Back in June, at the launch of the 20/20 for 20, Stanford warned that he was "not a philanthropist", and he confirmed that the regeneration of Caribbean cricket was merely a means to an end. His ultimate aim is to break the game into untapped TV markets, starting with the USA, where ESPN will broadcast the multi million-dollar match as live on Saturday night.

"To break into that market is a big deal," said Stanford, "and I think we're going to see that footprint expand very quickly into other markets that traditionally have not been exposed to cricket at all, not just the US. That's part of our plan.

"We'll be operating at about 60+ % this year, covering our costs," explained Stanford. "Next year and the third year we'll be making a good profit which will be ploughed back in to growing cricket in the Caribbean. That's my whole gameplan, nothing more, and if I can work with the English to help us facilitate this programme, for example through the Chance to Shine programme, that would be really great for getting kids into cricket. They have the expertise, I'm putting the money into place, and that's why we're working with the ECB."

The ECB, however, has given the impression in the past 24 hours that they are getting cold feet about the whole enterprise - they've been stung by the negative publicity in the British newspapers and unsettled by the unease of England's players, including Kevin Pietersen who says that he just wants the week to end. In the light of all this, the ECB has announced that they will be reviewing the deal for four more 20/20 for 20s that runs until 2012.

Stanford, however, was unfazed. "I had dinner with David Collier on my boat last night, and that process of review is something that the ECB do after every Test, ODI or Twenty20 series. There is no other thing special beyond that. I am very, very favourable in terms of how I feel things are going with the ECB and with the series so far. Saturday night will be the big determining factor for everybody."

Stanford also took the opportunity to reiterate his apology to the England camp after the episode involving Matt Prior's wife, Emily, on Sunday. "Let me tell you the way that came about," he said. "The cameraman said he'd found a great place to sit, with five beautiful young ladies, and say 'Go go England!'"

"I asked the first lady where are you from, she said Los Angeles, another one she said New Zealand. I had no idea that they were remotely connected to the England team. If I had known, I would have walked away.

"We sat down there for 20 seconds, the girl in the middle said: 'Take my seat', I did, we all said 'Go England!' [Emily] sat down on my knee for five seconds, the camera came in and that was it. Afterwards I called Matt [Prior], I called Kevin [Pietersen], and said no disrespect was intended. They accepted my apology, and that was it. Period."


Andrew Miller is UK editor of Cricinfo

Interesting clarification by Stanford about the whole incident...
 

PhoenixFire

International Coach
Haha what a moron, i guess he wants to make cricket bats to look more like baseball bats so he can break into the American market.
Haha what? He is a moron because he uses black bats? What sort of a stupid thing to say is that??

And FTR, I'm fairly sure that in MLB they use wooden bats that aren't black.
 

Precambrian

Banned
Black bats look vulgar really. But to each his own.

Interesting clarification by Stanford. My guess is that the women were probably drunk.
 

Precambrian

Banned
I can see that. TBH, I wouldnt call them a joke but there is a lot of whinging over what appears to be very little wrong.

I think the primary reason is that England has always been run differently to the other countries. This is one of the few times they have been whored out.

All the other nations have been whored out for decades. Meaningless tounaments here, overly long events there, short profit making trips everywhere etc

The English have always have quite a structured calander and a domestic season that dominates world cricket due to its geographical location.

Give it a year or so and the England players will be more used to becoming products and more realxed in enjoying the fruits of their labour.
Yeah, such money for a small trip like Stanford, as compared to the week after week the subcontinental teams used to put in ODIs in places like Sharjah and Toronto, during the ODI-mad days of late nineties and early 2000s. A 20-20 tourney in the Carribean is heaven as compared to a pointless three-nation fortnight-long toil in the blistering heat of Sharjah.
 

pup11

International Coach
Haha what? He is a moron because he uses black bats? What sort of a stupid thing to say is that??

And FTR, I'm fairly sure that in MLB they use wooden bats that aren't black.
Nope i called him a moron for coming up with an overly ****ty concept that Stanford 20/20 for 20 has turned out to be, i know in MLB they use wooden bats that ain't black, but i was just reacting to his statement that his main motive is to break into the American market with this concept, and obviously if that is to happen cricket would somewhat have a direct competition with MLB, and maybe he thought that plain wooden cricket bats were not flashy or cool enough for him, but seriously i find this black bat thing way too tacky even for T20.
 

G.I.Joe

International Coach
Prior should just be thankful that Stanford offered Emily his lap, instead of the other way round.
 

G.I.Joe

International Coach
Nope i called him a moron for coming up with an overly ****ty concept that Stanford 20/20 for 20 has turned out to be, i know in MLB they use wooden bats that ain't black, but i was just reacting to his statement that his main motive is to break into the American market with this concept, and obviously if that is to happen cricket would somewhat have a direct competition with MLB, and maybe he thought that plain wooden cricket bats were not flashy or cool enough for him, but seriously i find this black bat thing way too tacky even for T20.
Can the spectators even see the swing of the black bats? :wacko:
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Am I alone in really not giving a flying &%$£ what colour the bats are? :mellow:

Why on Earth does it matter? A bat is a bat whatever colour it is.
 

roseboy64

Cricket Web Content Updater
In other news, Middlesex got pasted

And the bats have been black since the first Stanford 20/20 and no one here cares as much as pup11 about it.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
So that means their only payment for this week comes from the ECB does it?

Or do they get some small form of compensation package?
 

FBU

International Debutant
So that means their only payment for this week comes from the ECB does it?

Or do they get some small form of compensation package?
$1m for each team member
$1m to be shared between the 4 missing out
$1m for the back room staff

if they win.
 

Uppercut

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Considering the amount of money both the ECB and the players get from this, i don't get what the fuss is about. They should just laugh all the way to the bank- not only does this series give them an easy big pile of cash (theoretically for the good of cricket in England), it also makes Twenty20 look like a steaming pile of poo and hence is an excellent advertisement for the superiority of test cricket.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Haha, yeah, a million bucks (if they win) for, quite possibly, doing nothing but maybe bowling an over or two.
 

Precambrian

Banned
Haha, yeah, a million bucks (if they win) for, quite possibly, doing nothing but maybe bowling an over or two.
Or worse. Get a first ball duck. Do nothing in the field, if not miss a catch or two. Let the others do the job, and if they win, whoa, $1 Million!

The problem with such tourneys is that effort and reward are not proportionate.
 

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