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*Official* Sri Lanka Tour of Australia 2019

TheJediBrah

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I don't know what to think now. If Jake Doran, who has done nothing in shield can score a ton while Renshaw, Burns and Labushagne score single digits, maybe it really is a crapshoot... just pick anyone young
That's cricket. Anything can happen, the best player doesn't always make the most runs.

Bradman can make a duck one day and Chris Martin could make 15. It doesn't mean Chris Martin should be picked ahead of Bradman as a batsman.

England and WI took this to the next level just yesterday. Agreed that they'll bat the day regardless of how many wickets fall. WI lost 19 in one innings.
Ok but I didn't know about that so it's Australia leading the way with sportsmanship as per usual tbh
 
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aussie tragic

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Bradman can make a duck one day and Chris Martin could make 15. It doesn't mean Chris Martin should be picked ahead of Bradman as a batsman.
I know Bradman made a duck in his last innings but aren't you stretching the point a bit far, surely Chris Martin never made 15 in his career?
 

stephen

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That's cricket. Anything can happen, the best player doesn't always make the most runs.

Bradman can make a duck one day and Chris Martin could make 15. It doesn't mean Chris Martin should be picked ahead of Bradman as a batsman.



Ok but I didn't know about that so it's Australia leading the way with sportsmanship as per usual tbh
Surely the fact that Chris Martin is still alive should tip the balance in his favour. Then again, Bradman's bones probably have more runs in them than Chris Martin.
 

Burgey

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Yeah it probably seems a bit unfair when blokes like Marnus get catapulted ahead of you but I think it'll work out well for him. Forcing him to address his conversion issue can only be a good thing
All true, but the random catapaulting of young blokes at all levels is a ****ing disgrace which is killing cricket. It’s like the selectors have some remit to choose 2-3 young blokes and have to fill that quota regardless of performances.
 

GotSpin

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All true, but the random catapaulting of young blokes at all levels is a ****ing disgrace which is killing cricket. It’s like the selectors have some remit to choose 2-3 young blokes and have to fill that quota regardless of performances.
I mean yeah, they probably do...

Kinda strange that Andrew Jones criticises the Australian selectors when NSW has been ****ing around so much
 

Spikey

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I don't know what to think now. If Jake Doran, who has done nothing in shield can score a ton while Renshaw, Burns and Labushagne score single digits, maybe it really is a crapshoot... just pick anyone young
Maybe just stop placing so much weight on an innings and form? Any idiot can make a score once. That's the whole problem with this particular game
 

Prince EWS

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Maybe just stop placing so much weight on an innings and form? Any idiot can make a score once. That's the whole problem with this particular game
Yeah I've always been much more for actual domestic performances over hunches or aesthetics when bringing batsmen into a Test side, but this counterculture we seem to have developed in fanland where this current Shield season is apparently worth infinitely more than the rest of players' long careers is getting way out of hand. Batting is so high variance that more or less ignoring long careers and reducing your entire opinion to an analysis of what someone has done over six games this season is just dumb, frankly. Let alone flipping out about one innings in a three day game against Lakmal, Chameera, Rajitha and Pradeep.

By all means argue for more emphasis on the Shield but please recognise that the nature of batting is such that most professional batsmen are capable of scoring a ton in a one-off game even if they aren't particularly great, and that good batsmen are capable of having small lean trots that don't suddenly mean they're no good. Neser having done more with the bat in his half dozen games so far this season than Ferguson does not mean he's likely to repeat the trend in the second half, nor does it mean it's some kind of gross injustice if Ferguson gets selected ahead of him as a batsman for some team they're both eligible for.
 
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TheJediBrah

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Yeah I've always been much more for actual domestic performances over hunches or aesthetics when bringing batsmen into a Test side, but this counterculture we seem to have developed in fanland where this current Shield season is apparently worth infinitely more than the rest of players' long careers is getting way out of hand. Batting is so high variance that more or less ignoring long careers and reducing your entire opinion to an analysis of what someone has done over six games this season is just dumb, frankly. Let alone flipping out about one innings in a three day game against Lakmal, Chameera, Rajitha and Pradeep.

By all means argue for my emphasis on the Shield but please recognise that the nature of batting is such that most professional batsmen are capable of scoring a ton in a one-off game even if they aren't particularly great, and that good batsmen are capable of having small lean trots that don't suddenly mean they're no good. Neser having done more with the bat in his half dozen games so far this season than Ferguson does not mean he's likely to repeat the trend in the second half, nor does it mean it's some kind of gross injustice if Ferguson gets selected ahead of him as a batsman for some team they're both eligible for.
I agree in theory but tbf 6 games is a decent chunk. I'd be happy picking someone for a home test series if they've been sufficiently superior in the current season over someone with a superior career.
 

stephen

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I agree in theory but tbf 6 games is a decent chunk. I'd be happy picking someone for a home test series if they've been sufficiently superior in the current season over someone with a superior career.
I think that two seasons is a good sample size. Usually that's about how long it takes for the domestic bowlers to work them out. That's part of the reason why I was always tentative about Cartwright being picked. It's partially why I'm very cautious about Pukovski (his mental health being the other part).

Renshaw looks the good but is susceptible to hot and cold streaks more than a player of his ability really should. Burns doesn't have a tight enough technique to open consistently in tests. Harris is mediocre with flashes of brilliance.
 

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