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I agree, Andre Adams would be a vital part of my ODI side and if James Franklin doesn't improve his E/R soon then I would have Adams as his replacement. No idea why they went with James Marshall, atleast Hamish has been in a bit of form. Interesting to see how McCullum goes at the top of the order and Vettori's captaincy will need to be good.
1. Brendon McCullum (wk)
2. Nathan Astle
3. Ross Taylor
4. Peter Fulton
5. Hamish Marshall
6. James Marshall
7. Daniel Vettori
8. Andre Adams
9. James Franklin
10. Mark Gillespie
11. Jeetan Patel
While I don't really want James Marshall in the team I think it would be a bit of a worry if Vettori was at #6 and we played 6 bowlers.
1. Brendon McCullum (wk)
2. Nathan Astle
3. Ross Taylor
4. Peter Fulton
5. Hamish Marshall
6. James Marshall
7. Daniel Vettori
8. Andre Adams
9. James Franklin
10. Mark Gillespie
11. Jeetan Patel
While I don't really want James Marshall in the team I think it would be a bit of a worry if Vettori was at #6 and we played 6 bowlers.
Retox
State Vice-Captain
James Marshall
Brendom McCullum
Nathan Astle
Ross Taylor
Peter Fulton
Hamish Marshall
Daniel Vettori
Andre Adams
James Franklin
Mark Gillespie
Jeetan Patel
If you add in Mills for Franklin Bond for Adams/Gillespie Fleming for J Marshall that looks like an awesome team
I like Marshall at 5-6 just to nudge the singles around
Brendom McCullum
Nathan Astle
Ross Taylor
Peter Fulton
Hamish Marshall
Daniel Vettori
Andre Adams
James Franklin
Mark Gillespie
Jeetan Patel
If you add in Mills for Franklin Bond for Adams/Gillespie Fleming for J Marshall that looks like an awesome team
I like Marshall at 5-6 just to nudge the singles around
Bahnz
Hall of Fame Member
Oh god, what a horrible side Bracewell has cobbled together for the first two one dayers. Well OK, it isn't too bad, it's just the selection of a couple of players that astonish and astound. Firstly, Hamish Marshall. I'm a big admirer of his performances from a couple of years ago, and I think he still deserves a chance in the test side. There the pressure isn't on him to score runs as rapidly, and he's been performing superbly for Gloucestershire, and managed to guide Northern, one of the worst teams from last year to two victories in first class matches so far this season. But his confidence in the one day arena is completely gone, and he'll only fail again. Only Bracewell would see a player's outstanding performances in one form of the game and put him in the other. We really need a new coach.
Andre Adams is a joke. He's the biggest pie thrower I've seen in a long time. I still remember his remarkable 5 wicket bag against India a couple of seasons ago, remarkable because almost every wicket he took was from a long hop or a half volley, that the Indian batsmen kept obligingly hitting to fielders. He was so hopeless that he failed even in the cesspool of mediocrity that is 2nd division county cricket, averaging 39.52 in 8 first class matches, and being dropped from the number one side during most of the season. Returns to the scene in 20/20, bowls 5 balls and gets hit for 18 runs. Fortunately he's only a part time replacement for Shane Bond, but it's still kind of sad that he's the next person we go to.
James Franklin is not a one day player. Can't swing the ball as much, and doesn't have enough time to get himself in as a batsman. Shouldn't be in there.
James Marshall came from nowhere. He'll be heading back there in a couple of games.
Peter Fulton has looked very average since his introductory series against Sri Lanka last year, and was absolutely appaulling at the Champion's Trophy. Probably worth giving him another go before the next world cup, but don't expect him to last too long against Murali.
Besides that, the selection is pretty good, and it isn't helped by the enforced absence of Mills, Styris and Oram. But in my opinion it's time for the selectors to bring back Craig McMillan. Yes, yes, we all know that he was the master of batting brain explosions, but he was always a pretty talented player. Experience will be important at the next world cup, and if there's any chance that McMillan can get back into form, he should be given it. If those guys all come back, and Bond can stay fit, then we'll have the base for a pretty decent one day side.
Oh, and don't worry, Bond's absence isn't due to injury, but was planned so that he could have a rest, before starting his final run to the world cup which sounds like a stupid idea to me. If you've got a star player, they should be played as much as possible so that they're at their best come world cup time. We can't be eternally worried that Bond will get injured. We have to play him like anyone else and if he gets injured then tough luck.
Andre Adams is a joke. He's the biggest pie thrower I've seen in a long time. I still remember his remarkable 5 wicket bag against India a couple of seasons ago, remarkable because almost every wicket he took was from a long hop or a half volley, that the Indian batsmen kept obligingly hitting to fielders. He was so hopeless that he failed even in the cesspool of mediocrity that is 2nd division county cricket, averaging 39.52 in 8 first class matches, and being dropped from the number one side during most of the season. Returns to the scene in 20/20, bowls 5 balls and gets hit for 18 runs. Fortunately he's only a part time replacement for Shane Bond, but it's still kind of sad that he's the next person we go to.
James Franklin is not a one day player. Can't swing the ball as much, and doesn't have enough time to get himself in as a batsman. Shouldn't be in there.
James Marshall came from nowhere. He'll be heading back there in a couple of games.
Peter Fulton has looked very average since his introductory series against Sri Lanka last year, and was absolutely appaulling at the Champion's Trophy. Probably worth giving him another go before the next world cup, but don't expect him to last too long against Murali.
Besides that, the selection is pretty good, and it isn't helped by the enforced absence of Mills, Styris and Oram. But in my opinion it's time for the selectors to bring back Craig McMillan. Yes, yes, we all know that he was the master of batting brain explosions, but he was always a pretty talented player. Experience will be important at the next world cup, and if there's any chance that McMillan can get back into form, he should be given it. If those guys all come back, and Bond can stay fit, then we'll have the base for a pretty decent one day side.
Oh, and don't worry, Bond's absence isn't due to injury, but was planned so that he could have a rest, before starting his final run to the world cup which sounds like a stupid idea to me. If you've got a star player, they should be played as much as possible so that they're at their best come world cup time. We can't be eternally worried that Bond will get injured. We have to play him like anyone else and if he gets injured then tough luck.
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archie mac
International Coach
Scaly piscine said:
Gee and I thought I was on a cricket forum where you post your thoughts/impressions
Sir Redman
State Vice-Captain
God, Bracewell really makes me wonder sometimes. Everybody knows that all our problems recently have been in the batting department, so what does he do? Weakens the batting further. Even if we pick all the selected batsman, we end up with Vettori, Adams, Franklin etc all one place to high. I know they're all useful batsmen, but really they should be taking up the 8, 9 and 10 positions. Franklin shouldn't even be there in the first place, though Bracewell seems to like him so he'll have a charmed life in the team.The Marshalls' in the middle order fill me with no confidence at all, James has never really looked up to it and the way Hamish has gone recently our tail is effectively beginning at number 5. I'm fully expecting us to be down 2-0 by the time Bond, Fleming etc are back.
I agree with what I've heard from Adam Parore etc in the media - we need to sort our best team out now and play them in every game between now and the WC. It's too late now for full scale experimentation - minor changes or trials are necessary sometimes (say McCullum opening, or playing Gillespie), but this is too much.
I agree with what I've heard from Adam Parore etc in the media - we need to sort our best team out now and play them in every game between now and the WC. It's too late now for full scale experimentation - minor changes or trials are necessary sometimes (say McCullum opening, or playing Gillespie), but this is too much.
Sir Redman
State Vice-Captain
Anyway, this would be my team:
1) McCullum
2) Astle
3) Taylor
4) Fulton
5) H Marshall
6) J Marshall
7) Vettori
8) Adams
9) Gillespie
10) Patel
11) Mason
12) Franklin
Though that's an extremely long tail with Gillespie - Patel - Mason, IMO their bowling is more likely to benefit us than Franklin's extra 10-20 runs, since his obligatory E/R of 6 is going to cost us that many anyway.
1) McCullum
2) Astle
3) Taylor
4) Fulton
5) H Marshall
6) J Marshall
7) Vettori
8) Adams
9) Gillespie
10) Patel
11) Mason
12) Franklin
Though that's an extremely long tail with Gillespie - Patel - Mason, IMO their bowling is more likely to benefit us than Franklin's extra 10-20 runs, since his obligatory E/R of 6 is going to cost us that many anyway.
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
I hope its exciting, I'll be watching now that Ashes are decided.
Off-field incidents did not distract us
Kumar Sangakkara
December 22, 2006
Prior to the second Test there was plenty of media talk and tension between the teams following Muttiah Muralitharan's controversial run-out in Christchurch. Our view was clearly expressed by Mahela [Jayawardene] - We felt the spirit of the game had been contravened. The statements that then flowed from a disgruntled New Zealand camp only served to provide us fuel going into Wellington, intensifying our focus and determination to raise our game to a higher level.
Stephen Fleming made a very strong statement before the game, complaining his team were upset by Mahela's post-match comments in Christchurch and that these statements had motivated them, especially their fast bowlers who were looking forward to bowling at Sri Lanka's batsmen again. Fleming was clearly annoyed that a Kiwi victory was being diluted by the affair, which rumbled on and on in the media.
However, our view for the second Test, in direct contrast, was very measured. We sat down and carefully analysed our performance, concentrating on cricket and nothing but cricket. We had forgotten the controversy and had re-focused. We knew we had to step beyond where we were in Christchurch and that we had the time and resources to do that.
At the start, having seen a good hard pitch with no hidden terrors, we were of the opinion that the advantage would lie with the side that batted first and Mahela had no hesitation after winning the toss. But as happened in the first Test, we started poorly. Fortunately, though, the pitch settled down after the first 40 minutes or so and once you had the hang of the pitch batting became much easier.
The highlight of that first innings was not my hundred, although it grabbed the headlines, but the mental character displayed by Chamara Silva after his pair in the first Test. To come into the game and play the way he did, not allowing the disappointment of a pair rock his confidence or curb his style, was an amazing feat. It clearly showed the hunger he has to perform at this level. It was his 61 in the first innings that propped us up, securing us a competitive total.
We're all obviously thrilled by Chamara's superb batting. He is a very busy player in the classical middle-order mould, always looking to rotate the strike and searching for opportunities to score. Yet he is also solid against the good balls, happily defending, striking that very difficult balance - especially important for middle-order batsmen - between scoring runs and consolidating. Chamara has been out of the side for a long time but now he almost looks like the finished article. His attitude looks spot on and his mental resilience was there for all to see in Wellington. Of course, as with every cricketer, there is always room for improvement and it's going to be very exciting to see how he develops during the next six months to a year.
Our final first innings total - 268- was mid-way between respectable and good. Having put the runs on the board, we knew we had the bowling firepower to claim an advantage and Lasith Malinga - or Mali as we call him - stepped up to the plate with an amazingly fast spell. He was consistently producing deliveries of around the 150kph mark with accuracy that made it very hard to play.
We'd seen some comments from the New Zealand camp that they felt satisfied that they'd worked him out and that he was not a genuine matchwinner. Thus it was especially pleasing to see him cut their top order to ribbons. He troubled them with sheer pace, bounce and variation, exploiting conditions perfectly. It was hostile fast bowling at its very best, a superb exhibition.
During the past two years Mali has come on leaps and bounds. He has a medium build but his body is wiry and naturally strong. Tom Moody says he has gained 22kg during the last year with all the fitness work designed to strengthen and protect his back. It's fantastic to see someone with such an unusual action that has been allowed to exploit his uniqueness.
Once we secured the lead, with Murali polishing off the tail with his customary wizardy, we just had to bat sensibly. Considering the conditions, we did not look too far ahead. At the outset the target was a lead of around 300. We lost some early wickets again but that only served to give Chamara another chance to apply himself, which he did brilliantly, showing immense maturity under pressure while batting with the lower order.
With a lead in excess of 500, we know it was just a matter of time before winning, but we also knew we could not just relax and wait for it to happen. The bowling unit once again delivered. Murali was magnificent with his fifth ten-wicket haul of the year - a phenomenal achievement - and backed up well by Malinga and Vaasy [Chaminda Vaas], who bowled really intelligently and tightly.
In the end we deserved to win as we played a better game of cricket and, importantly, keep our focus just on the cricket. We made sure that all that happened off the field did not distract us. In the aftermath of the victory, comparisons were made with the England tour where we also bounced back to square a three-match series. But we can't be looking back. This was an entirely different series in different conditions. Moreover, we are now playing better cricket, a more complete brand of cricket. The focus now must be the future, making sure we are constantly improving.
The Test series is over now and we start a long run-up to the World Cup, a crucial period during which we have to fine-tune our game and strategies. Fortunately, the victory in Wellington has boosted confidence ahead of the five-match ODI series. We have proved to ourselves that we can perform in New Zealand conditions and must now carry forward that self-belief into the ODI series.
© Cricinfo
Kumar Sangakkara
December 22, 2006
Prior to the second Test there was plenty of media talk and tension between the teams following Muttiah Muralitharan's controversial run-out in Christchurch. Our view was clearly expressed by Mahela [Jayawardene] - We felt the spirit of the game had been contravened. The statements that then flowed from a disgruntled New Zealand camp only served to provide us fuel going into Wellington, intensifying our focus and determination to raise our game to a higher level.
Stephen Fleming made a very strong statement before the game, complaining his team were upset by Mahela's post-match comments in Christchurch and that these statements had motivated them, especially their fast bowlers who were looking forward to bowling at Sri Lanka's batsmen again. Fleming was clearly annoyed that a Kiwi victory was being diluted by the affair, which rumbled on and on in the media.
However, our view for the second Test, in direct contrast, was very measured. We sat down and carefully analysed our performance, concentrating on cricket and nothing but cricket. We had forgotten the controversy and had re-focused. We knew we had to step beyond where we were in Christchurch and that we had the time and resources to do that.
At the start, having seen a good hard pitch with no hidden terrors, we were of the opinion that the advantage would lie with the side that batted first and Mahela had no hesitation after winning the toss. But as happened in the first Test, we started poorly. Fortunately, though, the pitch settled down after the first 40 minutes or so and once you had the hang of the pitch batting became much easier.
The highlight of that first innings was not my hundred, although it grabbed the headlines, but the mental character displayed by Chamara Silva after his pair in the first Test. To come into the game and play the way he did, not allowing the disappointment of a pair rock his confidence or curb his style, was an amazing feat. It clearly showed the hunger he has to perform at this level. It was his 61 in the first innings that propped us up, securing us a competitive total.
We're all obviously thrilled by Chamara's superb batting. He is a very busy player in the classical middle-order mould, always looking to rotate the strike and searching for opportunities to score. Yet he is also solid against the good balls, happily defending, striking that very difficult balance - especially important for middle-order batsmen - between scoring runs and consolidating. Chamara has been out of the side for a long time but now he almost looks like the finished article. His attitude looks spot on and his mental resilience was there for all to see in Wellington. Of course, as with every cricketer, there is always room for improvement and it's going to be very exciting to see how he develops during the next six months to a year.
Our final first innings total - 268- was mid-way between respectable and good. Having put the runs on the board, we knew we had the bowling firepower to claim an advantage and Lasith Malinga - or Mali as we call him - stepped up to the plate with an amazingly fast spell. He was consistently producing deliveries of around the 150kph mark with accuracy that made it very hard to play.
We'd seen some comments from the New Zealand camp that they felt satisfied that they'd worked him out and that he was not a genuine matchwinner. Thus it was especially pleasing to see him cut their top order to ribbons. He troubled them with sheer pace, bounce and variation, exploiting conditions perfectly. It was hostile fast bowling at its very best, a superb exhibition.
During the past two years Mali has come on leaps and bounds. He has a medium build but his body is wiry and naturally strong. Tom Moody says he has gained 22kg during the last year with all the fitness work designed to strengthen and protect his back. It's fantastic to see someone with such an unusual action that has been allowed to exploit his uniqueness.
Once we secured the lead, with Murali polishing off the tail with his customary wizardy, we just had to bat sensibly. Considering the conditions, we did not look too far ahead. At the outset the target was a lead of around 300. We lost some early wickets again but that only served to give Chamara another chance to apply himself, which he did brilliantly, showing immense maturity under pressure while batting with the lower order.
With a lead in excess of 500, we know it was just a matter of time before winning, but we also knew we could not just relax and wait for it to happen. The bowling unit once again delivered. Murali was magnificent with his fifth ten-wicket haul of the year - a phenomenal achievement - and backed up well by Malinga and Vaasy [Chaminda Vaas], who bowled really intelligently and tightly.
In the end we deserved to win as we played a better game of cricket and, importantly, keep our focus just on the cricket. We made sure that all that happened off the field did not distract us. In the aftermath of the victory, comparisons were made with the England tour where we also bounced back to square a three-match series. But we can't be looking back. This was an entirely different series in different conditions. Moreover, we are now playing better cricket, a more complete brand of cricket. The focus now must be the future, making sure we are constantly improving.
The Test series is over now and we start a long run-up to the World Cup, a crucial period during which we have to fine-tune our game and strategies. Fortunately, the victory in Wellington has boosted confidence ahead of the five-match ODI series. We have proved to ourselves that we can perform in New Zealand conditions and must now carry forward that self-belief into the ODI series.
© Cricinfo
TT Boy
Hall of Fame Member
I thought it would make more sense to rest Fleming and Bond once the series has been won or for the remaining last two games regardless. Don’t see the logic in the prospect of bringing both Fleming and Bond back into a series which looking at that New Zealand side could easily be 2-0 down with three games to play.
Even with Bond’s pace being noticeably down since the first test (even James Franklin was getting near his pace in the second test) his still head and shoulders their best bowler and at least he has a pretty good cricking brain. Whereas Franklin with the new ball could be a pretty ugly sight for New Zealand fans (even worse one with the older ball).
Even with Bond’s pace being noticeably down since the first test (even James Franklin was getting near his pace in the second test) his still head and shoulders their best bowler and at least he has a pretty good cricking brain. Whereas Franklin with the new ball could be a pretty ugly sight for New Zealand fans (even worse one with the older ball).
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While NZ are using Rotation policy , should SL do the same and experiment ?
It would be not a bad idea for SL to consider playing Ruchira Perera in place of Vaas, Maharoof or Malinga , Kapugedera in place of Dilshan or Chamara and Bandara in place of Murali in some of the ODIs at least .
It would be not a bad idea for SL to consider playing Ruchira Perera in place of Vaas, Maharoof or Malinga , Kapugedera in place of Dilshan or Chamara and Bandara in place of Murali in some of the ODIs at least .
Will Scarlet
U19 Debutant
Bracewell saved by lack of cricket ...
NZ's lack of cricket in the last 18 months has been disappointing to say the least but I also believe that it has saved Bracewell from getting sacked. Obviously it is too late now to get rid of the idiot before the world cup ... unfortunately! If we had failed more frequently in the last 12 months we could now be progressing towards the world cup, under a new coach, with some type of logical decision-making and relevant stagegy.
The selection of the two Marshalls - especially James - is ridiculous, but unfortunately the likes of Ryder have not flourished in recent matches. However, if we're going to experiment then now is the best time. If James is chosen to open then How should have been selected. Despite the comments of others in this forum I'm happy to see Adams back in the team. If he plays well I hope he can push for a test spot when we play our next test ... assuming that's is before he turns 40.
When is NZ cricket going to learn that stacking the team with all-rounders doesn't work against quality opposition? We've been doing it for years, in the hope that these players will either score some runs or take a few wickets - only to see them regularly fail in both disciplines. Our selectors need to get a pair and select specialists. Australia has dominated cricket for the last 15 years without an all-rounder. Sure, they have the best batsmen and bowlers but some of that is due to the clear roles that each player is given; not the half-arsed approach of saying, "Have a go at both. We hope you succeed at one."
For years commentators have been saying how long the NZ batting line-up is, only to see it collapse just as regularly. It is time for some selection spine.
NZ could be playing up to 19 ODIs this summer so applying the rotation policy isn't such a bad idea at this stage in the summer.
NZ's lack of cricket in the last 18 months has been disappointing to say the least but I also believe that it has saved Bracewell from getting sacked. Obviously it is too late now to get rid of the idiot before the world cup ... unfortunately! If we had failed more frequently in the last 12 months we could now be progressing towards the world cup, under a new coach, with some type of logical decision-making and relevant stagegy.
The selection of the two Marshalls - especially James - is ridiculous, but unfortunately the likes of Ryder have not flourished in recent matches. However, if we're going to experiment then now is the best time. If James is chosen to open then How should have been selected. Despite the comments of others in this forum I'm happy to see Adams back in the team. If he plays well I hope he can push for a test spot when we play our next test ... assuming that's is before he turns 40.
When is NZ cricket going to learn that stacking the team with all-rounders doesn't work against quality opposition? We've been doing it for years, in the hope that these players will either score some runs or take a few wickets - only to see them regularly fail in both disciplines. Our selectors need to get a pair and select specialists. Australia has dominated cricket for the last 15 years without an all-rounder. Sure, they have the best batsmen and bowlers but some of that is due to the clear roles that each player is given; not the half-arsed approach of saying, "Have a go at both. We hope you succeed at one."
For years commentators have been saying how long the NZ batting line-up is, only to see it collapse just as regularly. It is time for some selection spine.
NZ could be playing up to 19 ODIs this summer so applying the rotation policy isn't such a bad idea at this stage in the summer.
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chaminda_00
Hall of Fame Member
Last time was in Malaysia when Hussey captained, he usually gets rested during the ODI Series as well for atleast two gamesJF. said: