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***Official** Sri Lanka in New Zealand

Lostman

State Captain
i always preferred 6 batsman in ODI's, but consdering that SL got bowled out in a 20/20:ph34r:
i would gladly take the extra batsmen instead of the bowler.
 

dinu23

International Debutant
Lostman said:
i always preferred 6 batsman in ODI's, but consdering that SL got bowled out in a 20/20:ph34r:
i would gladly take the extra batsmen instead of the bowler.
most of them got out trying to play rash shots. it was a 20/20.
 

PhoenixFire

International Coach
Perera is a complete chucker, disgraceful. Mallinga and Fernando were Sl's best batsmen by a mile, says a lot.

Peter Fulton's six was a beast, massive.
 

Bahnz

Hall of Fame Member
Matt52 said:
I was wondering how Gillespie went. Cricinfo said he went OK and had a run rate of only 4 . something so seems he did well. What did you guys think. I havent actually seen him play, I think ever?
From what I heard he was very impressive, bowling with good swing and pace. His average speed was around 140 k's with a quicker one at 145, so not quite Bond pace, but certainly very sharp. He also got the ball to move both ways, and almost had Sangakkara with a beauty. If his knee isn't buggered, I wouldn't mind seeing him partnered with Bond to open later in the series.
 

Retox

State Vice-Captain
Good to see Mason/Gillespie bowling well might put pressure on Franklin to start being good in ODI's or atleast drop him.
 

Matt52

U19 Vice-Captain
Glad to hear Gillespie went OK. Fleming had some good words to say about him after the game so it seems promising. Someone here mentioned Gillespie wasnt that quick and didnt get much bounce but the early 140's is quick enough to trouble a few good batsmen I think and all of the news reports said he got more bounce than the other bowlers.

Ive always thought that Bond needed a fast bowling new ball partner, just to take some of the pressure off. If Fleming needs a wicket , he can hopefully now turn to two strike bowlers instead of giving the ball to Shane again.

Remember the world cup against Aus when Bond got 6 for 20 something but the other bowlers didnt even trouble the Aus lower order, and so we lost. Its OK to have a few stock bowlers that keep the runs down like Oram, but we just need one more bowler who can let loose for 3 or 4 overs to try and get a wicket.

In other news.....guess who is back in the Blackcaps to cover for Nathan Astle...........

http://www.blackcaps.co.nz/display.aspx?pri=114&sec=688&cid=5589&provider=0&tpl=0


Its interesting that he didnt go to Jesse Ryder or Matthew Sinclair.
 

Matt52

U19 Vice-Captain
Also, an interesting question would be who is going to open?. Fleming is missing the first two one dayers remember and if Astle is injured (he had to get xrays on his hand) then who would it be....?
Taylor bats at 3 and McMillan bats at 4 or 5, Maybe one of the Marshalls, James I presume.:-O

McCullum
J Marshall
Taylor
McMillan
H Marshall
and the rest.
 

dinu23

International Debutant
the loss of Flemming weakens the kiwi batting lineup considerably IMO. the only batsman that can pose a threat is McCullum.
 

Macka

U19 Vice-Captain
dinu23 said:
the loss of Flemming weakens the kiwi batting lineup considerably IMO. the only batsman that can pose a threat is McCullum.
I disagree. McCullum doesn't have much experience opening the batting in one-day domestic games, let alone internationals. Even if he plays out the first 10 overs, what is he going to do then? He has no experience batting through an innings, no real experience working the ball around. He does, however, have experience in making quick-fire 30s and 40s, which is what we've seen throughout his career.

His shot selection is still quite poor. He tries to smash everything, despite being very capable if he just bats normally. Basically, he has no experience opening the batting.

Astle, with 16-odd ODI centuries, might just be a better bet. Ross Taylor, with form behind him and a good one-day domestic record, would also be a better bet.
 

_Ed_

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Definitely agree about Astle, a bit worried about Taylor's low scores in the Twenty20 though. I know it's not like Twenty20 is something that should be taken seriously, but he just looked far from comfortable in Wellington (didn't see the second game).

I know he's good enough though, some of his innings for Central have been incredible and he played some nice shots against the West Indies in ODIs last summer.
 

Sir Redman

State Vice-Captain
Astle and McCullum for mine are the biggest threats in our batting lineup, but while I know McCullum can easily make a quick 50 I'm not sure if he's going to be able to bat through an innings like Astle has done in the past. Fulton, Taylor and the Marshalls (James in particular) I think don't have enough experience vs bowlers like Murali.

Actually, I have serious doubts about every single one of our batsmens' ability to play Murali. None of them have the slightest clue what to do, and it seems the only option they can think of is to sweep. Out of Murali's sixty deliveries tomorrow (presumably), I'm expecting at least 40 attempted sweeps, from which the best result we can hope for is a single.

Basically, our batting lineup gives me no confidence whatsoever and as a result I'm feeling unusually pessimistic before a home ODI series. Got a feeling we're going to get smashed, actually.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Sir Redman said:
Actually, I have serious doubts about every single one of our batsmens' ability to play Murali. None of them have the slightest clue what to do, and it seems the only option they can think of is to sweep. Out of Murali's sixty deliveries tomorrow (presumably), I'm expecting at least 40 attempted sweeps, from which the best result we can hope for is a single.
Of all your remaining batsmen, I actually think James Franklin played Murali the best in the test series. But even he favoured the sweep.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Sir Redman said:
Actually, I have serious doubts about every single one of our batsmens' ability to play Murali. None of them have the slightest clue what to do, and it seems the only option they can think of is to sweep. Out of Murali's sixty deliveries tomorrow (presumably), I'm expecting at least 40 attempted sweeps, from which the best result we can hope for is a single.
So that's 40 already off of him then ;)
 

Lostman

State Captain
looking at the NZ batting lineup the only batsmen that worry me as of right now are McCullum and Vettori. With Astle opening with McCullum, the NZ middle and lower order does look pretty brittle in my opinion. Plus in all likelyhood SL's spinners are going to be bowling at them in the middle overs. (murali, jayasuriya, dilshan)
 

Fiery

Banned
Lostman said:
looking at the NZ batting lineup the only batsmen that worry me as of right now are McCullum and Vettori. With Astle opening with McCullum, the NZ middle and lower order does look pretty brittle in my opinion. Plus in all likelyhood SL's spinners are going to be bowling at them in the middle overs. (murali, jayasuriya, dilshan)
It does look a bit thin but Fleming, Styris, Oram will all come back into the side at some stage which will make the batting line-up look a lot healthier. Big chance for Ross Taylor to show his class and cement his place in the team and for some fringe players, e.g, the Marshall's, Fulton, Adams, etc to stake their claims for a spot in the side to tour Aussie for the tri-series which will be a fantastic build-up to the World Cup. A chance to humiliate England even further and test ourselves against the Aussies. Bring it on! I'm picking this to be "The Summer of Brendan McCullum"
 
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Natman20

International Debutant
I was very suprised to see Mason bowl well in the Twenty20. I think he has more potential than I ever thought he had or it could just be the pitch. I would have either Gillespie or Mason in for Franklin and keep Kyle Mills in the ODI squad for the World Cup. The Twenty20 batting line-up was shocking IMO. The tail enders started at 5 IMO. Adams is no allrounder IMO.
 

Fiery

Banned
Natman20 said:
I was very suprised to see Mason bowl well in the Twenty20. I think he has more potential than I ever thought he had or it could just be the pitch. I would have either Gillespie or Mason in for Franklin and keep Kyle Mills in the ODI squad for the World Cup. The Twenty20 batting line-up was shocking IMO. The tail enders started at 5 IMO. Adams is no allrounder IMO.
Adams is a bit of a jack of all trades, master of none
 

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