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***Official*** Sri Lanka in New Zealand

Zinzan

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Disgraceful performance from New Zealand to date......11 no balls in the first half of the innings is pitiful. Good batting pitch - Yes, but dreadful bowling performance.

Why the hell didn't they back-up with Patel. I was looking foward to seeing him bowl
 

Tim

Cricketer Of The Year
looks a bit like arrogance if you ask me...they seem to be messing with the team too much now that the series is won.
 

Blaze

Banned
Tim said:
Martin just isn't up to ODI standard. He's bowling at least 1 four ball every over...he's got to be able to put some pressure on but he always seems to concede 40+ runs.

And i'd add James Franklin to that, although considering Mills has improved..Franklin may just need regular ODI cricket to come right.

Exactly right. These 2 are proven failures at ODI level. Both average in the high 30's and go for 5.5 an over. Franklin has potential but isn't good enough at this stage.

I can't believe that the NZ selectors keep going back to Martin. Why not give Aldridge a crack? It is a dead rubber, meaningless game against a weak opposition. Perfect conditions to blood somebody new in.
 

Tim

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in my opinion, i think the selectors are worried to debut too many players..2 is fine, but probably no more than that. But quite frankly, Martin in particular doesn't look like he'll make it to the World Cup and there are serious concerns about whether Franklin can improve enough in time.

But lets not forget we've been unfortunate that Tuffey & Butler have been out for some time now.
 

Zinzan

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Tim said:
in my opinion, i think the selectors are worried to debut too many players..2 is fine, but probably no more than that. But quite frankly, Martin in particular doesn't look like he'll make it to the World Cup and there are serious concerns about whether Franklin can improve enough in time.

But lets not forget we've been unfortunate that Tuffey & Butler have been out for some time now.
Whilst i agree with your views on Martin as an ODI bowler. In fairness to him he was better than Franklin today
 

James

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Would we really want to touch Tuffey again in the ODI arena Tim?

What a last over from Bond just now too! :)
 

Tim

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We shouldn't forget that before Tuffey had his problems on & off the field, he was actually going very well as an opening bowler for NZ in ODI's. I don't think we should discard him now, I'd much prefer to see him ahead of Martin & Franklin right now.
 

JASON

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Tim said:
Bond hitting 150 km's again today, he's getting there!
He certainly is. I think NZ selectors and coaches have to try and preserve him to the World Cup 2007 , if they want the best out come for NZ there (with Mills and Bond obviously being the ideal opening combination) .

Given his injuries in the past , its best to pick and choose which opposition he plays and when to not play him etc. , in an attempt to shield him from Injury.
 

Zinzan

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Tim said:
We shouldn't forget that before Tuffey had his problems on & off the field, he was actually going very well as an opening bowler for NZ in ODI's. I don't think we should discard him now, I'd much prefer to see him ahead of Martin & Franklin right now.
I think the re-shuffle also highlights just how well Mills has bowled of late and how much we' ve missed him. A player most of us didn't really rate
 

Blaze

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Tim said:
We shouldn't forget that before Tuffey had his problems on & off the field, he was actually going very well as an opening bowler for NZ in ODI's. I don't think we should discard him now, I'd much prefer to see him ahead of Martin & Franklin right now.

Yeah Tuffey is miles ahead of Martin.

In terms of the match, at least a few of the Sri Lankans are starting to hit form with the bat in time for the VB series. Although it was a very weak NZ bowling attack.

Patel should have played.
 

Blaze

Banned
zinzan12 said:
I think the re-shuffle also highlights just how well Mills has bowled of late and how much we' ve missed him. A player most of us didn't really rate

Spot on. I have never rated Mills but he has performed very well of late and is now a genuine first team pick every time.

The last 2 games while Franklin has been getting hit to the boundary time after time I have been thinking to myself 'where is Kyle Mills when you need him'

He really has come on and is consistantly good opening up at the start of our bowling.
 

JASON

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SL again failed to build a good score and on this pitch one feels anything under 300 looks below par.

Mahela Jayawardene struggled to build on the good start made by the others and was really scratchy . It seems apart from Injury , he and several of the top players are not happy with the Appointment of Vaas as Vice Captain and therefore not giving their best in the middle.

This was suggested after the Last ODI in Sri Lankan forums and I am starting to think that there may be some truth in that.

Vaas Vice Captaincy saga has been going on for too long and if most of the Senior players are not happy with the change , its best they take it off Vaas and give it to some one else - Possibly Sangakkara or Murali .

Atapattu / Moody combo's lack of Luck is again clear in this performance, where whenever they needed to get going they lost wickets or struggled to build on.

Black Caps with their strong batting Line up should make easy work of this chase !
 

Tim

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Don't forget that Martin replaced How so NZ do have a genuine tail-ender today.

But 280 at Napier should be quite gettable.
 

Zinzan

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JASON said:
He certainly is. I think NZ selectors and coaches have to try and preserve him to the World Cup 2007 , if they want the best out come for NZ there (with Mills and Bond obviously being the ideal opening combination) .

Given his injuries in the past , its best to pick and choose which opposition he plays and when to not play him etc. , in an attempt to shield him from Injury.
We do need Bond for 2007, but I wouldn't wrap him in cotton wool. He needs consistent (real match) bowling to be at his best IMO
 

Blaze

Banned
Jason - I think Sri Lanka are a chance here. Styris isn't playing and so our batting is weaker.

IMO Sangakarra should be captain.
 

Blaze

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zinzan12 said:
We do need Bond for 2007, but I wouldn't wrap him in cotton wool. He needs consistent (real match) bowling to be at his best IMO

We might as well get him playing the most we can. He could get injured at any point and not neccesarily in a game situation. Sure, if he is feeling sore then rest him, but if he feels fit then we might as well play him. He has missed enough cricket as it is.
 

Zinzan

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Yeah, I have a feeling we will butcher this chase....

Hope I'm wrong
 
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Jono

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Honestly that Bond last over was superb. Vaas is no mug with the bat, and granted he didn't have his eye in but he is a very threatening slogger. Great bowling.

Sangakkara seems to be hitting form again at the right time. Could spell good news for SL going into the VB Series.
 

Jono

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Blaze said:
IMO Sangakarra should be captain.
He's the ideal character but it'd put too much on his plate. Keeping (to Murali on top of that), plus being the side's best batsman (who bats pretty high up in both forms) and on top of that captain may be too much for him.

Jayawardene has been groomed to be captain for so many years now. Its just a shame he never actually showed he could do it, despite all the special favour he received.
 

JASON

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Jono said:
He's the ideal character but it'd put too much on his plate. Keeping (to Murali on top of that), plus being the side's best batsman (who bats pretty high up in both forms) and on top of that captain may be too much for him.

Jayawardene has been groomed to be captain for so many years now. Its just a shame he never actually showed he could do it, despite all the special favour he received.
IMO Vaas causing so much Team disunity in view of his Vice Captaincy and Mahela's failure to perform as Vice Captain , means one thing.

They both need to removed from that position and since Marvan is struggling as well, they should make Sangakkara Captain and Murali Vice Captain , thus removing both those 2 (Vaas and Mahela ) out of the Captaincy stakes.

This is very annoying that they underperform but still find it in themselves to squabble about these sort of things .
 

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