** Official ** Sri Lanka in New Zealand tour

[psxpro]

I hope the weather clears, becasue we still need a lot of time to bowl srilanka out imo.
They won't go down without a fight. And there isn't the same movement as in the first morning now. Wiseman may have to take a few wickets.

 

[chaminda_00]

I hope the weather clears, becasue we still need a lot of time to bowl srilanka out imo.
They won't go down without a fight. And there isn't the same movement as in the first morning now. Wiseman may have to take a few wickets.

What fight did they show in the first innings?? Outside Thilan they all fell apart when put under some pressure from the Martin and co. I know their capable of scoring 400 plus and setting NZ some total but they never really shown the mental abilty to fight it out on seaming pitches in the past, unless someone gets a big hundred.

 

[Tim]

The odds are that tommorow the game could be all over. Martin will be extremely dangerous if he starts bowling the same kind of delivery that he got Jayasuriya out with this evening.

I think Astle will be the other tricky customer. Lou Vincent doesn't look that bad either..I know that he does bowl alot for his club & that the word around is that he's rated quite highly as a medium pacer by people within NZ cricket.

 

[psxpro]

Martin did bowl pretty well in the 1st innings, Srilanka didn't bat too well but Chances are Martin won't get anywhere near the same assistance from the pitch in the 2nd innings (although he did take apart sa on a flat pitch).
Apart from Martin the srilankans looked comfortable vs other bowlers.

If there is 2 full days and srilanka save it, then it would be an extrodinary achievemnt, so Nz are hot favs to win now but I'm saying I just hope the weather is fine becasue we wills till need a bit of time to bowl you guys out.

 

[psxpro]

Lou Vincent doesn't look that bad either..I know that he does bowl alot for his club & that the word around is that he's rated quite highly as a medium pacer by people within NZ cricket.

Lol, you mean by like selectors and stuff? I did not see him bowl today becuz of uni, did he look impressive, ive actually never seen vincent bowl, find it hilarious that he is a serious option. Does he swing the ball?

 

[chaminda_00]

Martin did bowl pretty well in the 1st innings, Srilanka didn't bat too well but Chances are Martin won't get anywhere near the same assistance from the pitch in the 2nd innings (although he did take apart sa on a flat pitch).
Apart from Martin the srilankans looked comfortable vs other bowlers.

If there is 2 full days and srilanka save it, then it would be an extrodinary achievemnt, so Nz are hot favs to win now but I'm saying I just hope the weather is fine becasue we wills till need a bit of time to bowl you guys out.

It depends on what batsmen turn up, if the ones that played in the first innings then it could be over by Tea, if the batsmen that turn up are the ones that back their abilties then it could last to the last day and NZ will probably either chase a small total and if the pitch is breaking up then SL have a chance., a small one but a chance.

 

[psxpro]

I don't think even we can lose it from here. Well anything is possible but realistically we wont lose no matter what.
Draw is still a posibilty without rain if attapattu and a few other bat for a while or it rains.

If we got Attappatu early tommorow, I'd be very confident of wrapping the innings up quickly.

 

[chaminda_00]

I don't think even we can lose it from here. Well anything is possible but realistically we wont lose no matter what.
Draw is still a posibilty without rain if attapattu and a few other bat for a while or it rains.

If we got Attappatu early tommorow, I'd be very confident of wrapping the innings up quickly.

I think we have to bat out too many overs to get a draw, unless it rains off course. Teams have won from here from worse position, i can't think of any of the top of my head, but if Vincent can score a double hundred then why can't a Sri Lankan. There still around 180 overs left, a lot can happen in that time.

 

[psxpro]

Its possible, but i just can't see it happening in this test.
If anyone does it though it could be sangakarra, he is due a big score.

For srilanka to win they would probably have to score 450 minimum to leave nz 150 to win.
On this pitch which isnt that flat and srilanka looking to settle things down early tommorow it would be very hard to score that as over 4 runs an over.

Plus, to bowl out nz again malinga would have bowl like he did in napier along with vaas's excellent performance in this match.

 

[chaminda_00]

Its possible, but i just can't see it happening in this test.
If anyone does it though it could be sangakarra, he is due a big score.

For srilanka to win they would probably have to score 450 minimum to leave nz 150 to win.
On this pitch which isnt that flat and srilanka looking to settle things down early tommorow it would be very hard to score that as over 4 runs an over.

Plus, to bowl out nz again malinga would have bowl like he did in napier along with vaas's excellent performance in this match.

See how it is possible, add Atapattu abilty to get 200s, and the chances are getting bigger. It would be very funny if it did happen but, and to see who would be the scapegoats for such a loss. My guess Cumming, Mills and Wiseman would be th first ones on the list.

 

[Kippax]

There is no way Astle can (or should) be dropped.

I probably wouldn't drop Astle, but can someone tell me why he's such a sacred cow to a lot of people? How does 1 Man of the Match award in 70 tests make anyone untouchable, especially if NZ want to aspire to greater things?

His high 30's average is very good by NZ standards historically, but batting has clearly been taken up a notch the world over. It's not like the "but Astle's based on terrible, green NZ pitches" argument holds up - he averages 7.5 runs less away than he does at home.

 

[Kippax]

But how many International teams select like that?

I can't think of an international team that has ever willingly omitted a double centurion for the next test it played. Rodney Redmond's axing is still an occasional talking point, 32 years on.

 

[marc71178]

Just they can hold the bat and make some decent runs doesn't make them batsmen.

Don't think anyone said that, all that was said is that they're not tailenders.

 

[marc71178]

So you can bring it up at the end of tomorrow's play.

What you mean when the first 8 are all dismissed to clear catches but the last wicket is a dubious LBW, so it'll be the umpire's costing SL the game again?

 

[Isolator]

I probably wouldn't drop Astle, but can someone tell me why he's such a sacred cow to a lot of people? How does 1 Man of the Match award in 70 tests make anyone untouchable, especially if NZ want to aspire to greater things?

His high 30's average is very good by NZ standards historically, but batting has clearly been taken up a notch the world over. It's not like the "but Astle's based on terrible, green NZ pitches" argument holds up - he averages 7.5 runs less away than he does at home.

Well, I do like him a lot, so perhaps my judgment is biased, but I think he's a very good player, and with this last century there's a possibility of him embarking on a good run of form. Also, given the time the selectors gave (and wasted on) McMillan, I don't think Astle's spot is in danger. Actually, I'm quite happy with the makeup of NZ's batting at the moment, and I can't say I'd be displeased if Styris has to wait awhile, even though I quite like him.

 

[Legglancer]

And Did you apologise to everyone about the cheating umpiring help srilanka got to win the 1996 cricket world cup? because it was in asia everyone favoured srilanka, They only won becasue the unpires cheated.

Hmmm .... The first time Ive Herd this one Please expand

 

[Ming]

Just they can hold the bat and make some decent runs doesn't make them batsmen.

Actually, anyone can call themselves a batsman.

So in your mind, a genuine allrounder like Cairns or Oram aren't batsmen?

 

[Macka]

Regarding Scott Styris' return: Peronsally, I feel he should be straight back into Black Caps. He, still, is the only NZ batsman to show he can score centuries consistantly. Guys like Fleming and Astle have played a lot of matches and have not scored enough runs, let alone centuries.

We all know about Fleming's poor form recently and his seemingly innate ability to not convert solid starts - or not so solid as shown yesterday - into big scores. Astle does seem to have some hold of the selectors - as does Vettori for that matter. Both have gone through extended periods of very bad form, and have still made the team. As Vincent showed, having players who can score centuries leads to pressuring the opposition and the possibility of winning the match.

Vincent will keep his spot for the next Test series; there is no way he should be dropped for Styris. Styris should, however, play in the next Test series if he performs well in the warm up matches (I assume there is at least one). Assuming he is fit, he will be taken on tour. Especially for the ODIs, where Vincent most likely will not feature.

Astle should not be dropped after making some runs recently. Fleming will not be dropped, although I wouldn't blame anyone for bringing this up. With Fleming's inability to lead from the front - which was always all talk and no action - the middle order is again packed because, as per usual, there are no top-order players. Fleming has Styris' spot in the order, although I have questions over whether it should go to Vincent after yesterday's performance. The batting order from 3 to 6 looks settled for now. The only place, realistically, in question are the opening spots. I never thought Cumming should be in the side. but he hasn't done that bad. And again, James Marshall has done OK.

I guess what I'm eventually getting to is that, *if* Styris is to play in the next series (and he should in my opinon), Hamish Marshall would be forced to open. Or, God forbid, Styris is asked to open. I'm not entirely (read: not at all) convinced that either of these options are plausible. Although, Hamish does look to have the technique and temperament to open. I personally think Styris is good enough to bat at 3, where he has scored 2 of his centuries. Not to mention his stunning 170 against SA after coming in at 12/2.

With that in mind, I'm a huge Styris fan and I really rate him. So I'm not too sure how much can be read into what I've written. Maybe I'm more trying to convince myself...

 

[social]

I can't think of an international team that has ever willingly omitted a double centurion for the next test it played. Rodney Redmond's axing is still an occasional talking point, 32 years on.

Australia dropped Katich after he had scored 220 runs for once out AND took five wickets in an innings.

 

[psxpro]

both styris and vincent have to be in the starting 11 vs sa.