** Official ** Sri Lanka in New Zealand tour

[psxpro]

BTW, I didn't see your post re- SL performing better than NZ in the First Test and the Test ending up in a draw after considerable Umpiring help.

It was still a draw, I didn't say you need to say nz played well. I just said accept the result.
Ian smith and martin crowe did not say Umpiring cost srilanka the first test, it did not cost them anything.
It was always gonna be a draw.

And Did you apologise to everyone about the cheating umpiring help srilanka got to win the 1996 cricket world cup? because it was in asia everyone favoured srilanka, They only won becasue the unpires cheated.

 

[JASON]

Look, there is no doubt in my mind that Sri Lanka have had the worst of the decisions thru-out this series. However they are not in the position they are in now (300 behind and 9wks in hand) due entirely to poor umpiring decisions.
Martin bowled well and Vincent batted well.

Agreed .

Also, as I said at the time after the 1st test, I don't think sri lanka would have won if they did get that edge off Mills on the last day. They still needed the last wicket and then would have needed to score over 6 an over to win, all that in diminishing light. Given they didn't even chase down 5.8 runs per over at home against NZ a couple of years ago...I can't see that they would have got close in Napier.

But those were not the only 2 decisions that went against SL in that Test !

 

[psxpro]

Agreed .



But those were not the only 2 decisions that went against SL in that Test !

And some went srilanka's way. It was only a couple of decisions, it did not change the game.

In the 2nd test the calls have ben even.

Leave the umpiring alone and talk about cricket.

 

[chaminda_00]

Hes going to bat at 9 AND 10??

Im sure they wont allow that!

Plus, I think youll find that hes listed to come in at 8...

With Maharoof coming in at night-watchman they will drop down to 9 and 10.

 

[JASON]

Ian smith and martin crowe did not say Umpiring cost srilanka the first test, it did not cost them anything.
It was always gonna be a draw.

My previous post was about the LBWs in this Test which Martin Crowe and co commented on being out . But since you mention the first Test , Martin Crowe and Mark Richardson were definitely of the opinion that umpiring cost SL the Test (not just the 2 decisions in the NZ second innings alone) as heard live on TV !!

And Did you apologise to everyone about the cheating umpiring help srilanka got to win the 1996 cricket world cup? because it was in asia everyone favoured srilanka, They only won becasue the unpires cheated.

If you say so. But I won't mention Clive LLoyd's West Indian tour to NZ in 1981 (when NZ won a controversial series with home umpires) or Fred Goodall then. !

 

[Zinzan]

Agreed .



But those were not the only 2 decisions that went against SL in that Test !

Correct...but it didn't all go NZs way, I remember s.lanka getting a crucial wicket at the end of the 4th day when Marshall (star of the 1st innings) got done with an LBW clearly missing leg stump.

And I don't think the others would have made that much of a difference.

If anything lost S. lanka the 1st test, it was their awful fielding and dropped catches on the first day

 

[JASON]

And some went srilanka's way. It was only a couple of decisions, it did not change the game.

In the 2nd test the calls have ben even.

Leave the umpiring alone and talk about cricket.

Apart From Buchnor giving Hamish Marshall out LBW 3 balls after blatantly giving him not out (for a clear caught behind) and thus correcting his mistake , can't think of any that went SL way.

But if you agree we can leave umpiring for the moment !!

 

[Zinzan]

My previous post was about the LBWs in this Test which Martin Crowe and co commented on being out . But since you mention the first Test , Martin Crowe and Mark Richardson were definitely of the opinion that umpiring cost SL the Test (not just the 2 decisions in the NZ second innings alone) as heard live on TV !!



If you say so. But I won't mention Clive LLoyd's West Indian tour to NZ in 1981 (when NZ won a controversial series with home umpires) or Fred Goodall then. !

I'm pretty sure I saw most of that test and I don't remember Crowe and co saying NZ DEFINATELY would have lost the test if wasn't for poor decisions. For one they are commentators and i don't believe they would have gone quite that far. Its one thing for them to question an individual decision but to outright say NZ would hav lost if it wasn't for the umpires would be dangerous territory for them

 

[JASON]

Correct...but it didn't all go NZs way, I remember s.lanka getting a crucial wicket at the end of the 4th day when Marshall (star of the 1st innings) got done with an LBW clearly missing leg stump.
And I don't think the others would have made that much of a difference.

If anything lost S. lanka the 1st test, it was their awful fielding and dropped catches on the first day

As I have said above that was an attempt by Buchnor to correct a blatant mistake he had made 3 balls earlier !!

And I don't think the others would have made that much of a difference.

I am sure you would have said otherwise if the shoe had been in your foot.

 

[Smudge]

But if you agree we can leave umpiring for the moment !!

So you can bring it up at the end of tomorrow's play.

 

[psxpro]

sl batsmen were out many times, but lets not talk about umpiring. you've been saying that for like 10 pages, but you bring up umpiring after every post.

It doesn't matter who the umpires were, the results would have been the same.

 

[JASON]

So you can bring it up at the end of tomorrow's play.

Ok, Sir !!

Good night fellas, lets meet again tomorrow and criticise and tear each other apart !!

 

[Isolator]

There is no way Astle can (or should) be dropped.

 

[Zinzan]

As I have said above that was an attempt by Buchnor to correct a blatant mistake he had made 3 balls earlier !!



I am sure you would have said otherwise if the shoe had been in your foot.

Yes, I'm sure i would have expressed my disgust at the decisions, but given that match situation, I wouldn't have argued that it cost them the game

 

[psxpro]

I'm getting sick of umpires giving srilanka 4 different balls.
They kept getting newer balls after they cheatingly ruined the balls.
The umpires favoured them because they are srilankans.

 

[psxpro]

There is no way Astle can (or should) be dropped.

Why not?
At the moment I'd say Vincent is in better form and styris is a better player.
If anything astle should open, thats the only place for him in a fully fit nz test side now imo. Unless vincent loses his form.

 

[Zinzan]

I'm getting sick of umpires giving srilanka 4 different balls.
They kept getting newer balls after they cheatingly ruined the balls.
The umpires favoured them because they are srilankans.

Lets not get silly now

 

[chaminda_00]

I don't think Chaminda says NZ played well enough to have this lead and be so much in front , considering the Teams were pretty even and the decisions that would otherwise have made it a closer Test .

Thanks Jason but i can talk for myself and umpiring decision had nothing to do with how bad we played in this test so far. Outside Thilan and Vaas none of the guys have played at Test Standard. The others have been pathetic to say the least.

Martin bowled brilliantly in the first innings as good as Vaas the last innings, but the difference he had support from the other bowlers, which we didn't provide to Vaas from the other end. That one area that NZ has been in front on.

The other thing is that Vincent innings was as good as any in recent times aganist Sri Lanka and also he got support from fellow batsmen. Even though Cumming and Fleming should of been out earlier, they still made the most of their chances. Also the NZ lower order supported Vincent, apart from Chandana no one supported Thilan.

That the difference between the to teams not the umpiring, one team played as a team the other team didn't. Even if Fleming and Cumming were given out, like they should of we proabably we 200 runs odd behind, we have not played well at all outside two players.

 

[JASON]

Thanks Jason but i can talk for myself .

I know you can, as you have so well demonstrated on this and other threads, Mate. But you were not on-line at the time the comment was made, Alrightey ?

 

[chaminda_00]

I know you can, as you have so well demonstrated on this and other threads, Mate. But you were not on-line at the time the comment was made, Alrightey ?

Yeah that alright