Overrated on what basis exactly?JBH001 said:Nice bowling by Panesar collecting his first 5 for.
(Though I dont know what impact he will have in Aussie - finger spinners be they left hand or right hand usually have a tough time over there. Still, he deserves to be in the squad)
Turning to the game. I fear that SL for all their gumption are about 25 runs short of a matchwinning total. However, here's hoping they make the over-rated poms sweat a bit.
okGloucefan said:That, I think gives Monty an average of 34.33, hopefully he can continue to aprove.
* Imropve even
No, he was only off for ~80 minutes and he's been on the field and waiting in the pavilion that length of time, so he's fine to bat wherever.GeraintIsMyHero said:Forgive me if this has already been mentioned, but is it right that Collingwood can't bat any higher than 7 because he was off the field yesterday?
Mainly in their batting.GeraintIsMyHero said:Overrated on what basis exactly?
It's more than likely going to take a big 100 from someone - I'd wager Trescothick and KP are our men most likely to. Fingers crossed.Samuel_Vimes said:325 to win.
Tresco 50
Strauss 30
Cook 50
Pietersen 50
Collingwood 50
Flintoff 40
Gojo 30
Plunkett 10
Hoggard 10
Lewis 5
?
All those noballs in the frst SL innings look even more of a nuisance now. Plus their last 2 wickets adding 90+, of course.Barney Rubble said:It's more than likely going to take a big 100 from someone - I'd wager Trescothick and KP are our men most likely to. Fingers crossed.
Oh wellSwervy said:
fielding overrated how? They have been criticised for it.JBH001 said:Mainly in their batting.
Somewhat in their fielding.
A little bit in their bowling.
And overall, as a team, they are - on the results of this series - heavily overrated.
I think he's just saying that the batting isn't what one would expect it to be for a team that claims to be the second best in the world.GeraintIsMyHero said:fielding overrated how? They have been criticised for it.
The bowling isn't overrated, we have the world's premier pace attack, but they haven't been united since last August.
Batting - it's not our strong point - but again, noone said it is, so how could it be overrated?
It wasn't so long ago that you'd read all sorts of people suggesting that Tresco drops down the order to accommodate all of our openers and make good use of his ability against spin. The last 12 months have rather shown up that particular theory.Scaly piscine said:Here's Murali, usually odds on for a wicket whenever a World Class spinner comes on against our openers.
"On the results of this series". . A series in which we've been missing four key players including our captain, and are still in with a chance at winning it 2-0 against a side who are clearly not as bad as everyone thought.JBH001 said:Mainly in their batting.
Somewhat in their fielding.
A little bit in their bowling.
And overall, as a team, they are - on the results of this series - heavily overrated.
I think teams have generally cottoned on to the fact that if you block his slog sweep shot he struggles somewhat.wpdavid said:It wasn't so long ago that you'd read all sorts of people suggesting that Tresco drops down the order to accommodate all of our openers and make good use of his ability against spin. The last 12 months have rather shown up that particular theory.
Hold it, hold it, hold it.andyc said:I think he's just saying that the batting isn't what one would expect it to be for a team that claims to be the second best in the world.
Don't scare me like that.UncleTheOne said:Strauss against spin. Just a walking wicket.
Yawn, whitewashed NZ and WI twice, beat SA in SA and the only other team to do that since their reintroduction to Test cricket are Australia. Beat Australia. I don't see any other team matching those feats.JBH001 said:Hold it, hold it, hold it.
I thought you guys were now claiming to be the best in the world!
But yeah, that's about the strength of it.
From the point of view of claiming to be the second best in the world, and wanting to be the best in the world (though it would be a very 'old' English thing to be content with second place ) there is a hell of a long way to go. Just think back to the start of the series, and, really, take an objective look at this Sri Lankan side. As I said, for a team claiming to be the second best in the world and aiming to beard the lion in its den this winter, England have a long way to go to prove they are worthy.
One good summer does not a decade make.