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***Official*** Sri Lanka in England

JASON

Cricketer Of The Year
Sanz said:
125 runs more...Common SriLanka. Please Give Murali atleast 300 to defend.
On this pitch which still seems to be playing true if any 2 English Batsman get settled in even 400 would be gettable . SL need to try and bat through the first session on Day 4 at least .

I would agree with Monty Panesar , in that England would still fancy chasing a target of 350 , given Murali only took 3 wickets in the first innings and there is hardly a major demon in this pitch or significant turn (I know the detractors would say KP turned it too but SL will need to convince 2 umpires 200% to get any wickets here and this pitch from what I have seen is not too difficult to bat on .)
 

JASON

Cricketer Of The Year
BoyBrumby said:
Top leave there! :laugh:

Padding up to a straight one. Hmm. Seven down now, but think Sri Lanka already have enough anyway.
If I am correct you are referring to Maharoof , I suspect.

He is undoubtedly one of the passengers in this SL side. :laugh: If I remember correctly he has not been required to bowl in the second innings of second test or the first innings of this Test. And even in the first innings at Edgbaston he only bowled a few wicketless overs giving away runs. Batting wise he has made few 13's and 10s .

As I see it he does not fulfil the 4th bowler's role in this Test ( remarkably SL could've managed this Test with just 3 bowlers only !!) nor does he fulfil any criteria for a batsman coming in at 8 and making the measly contributions he has made while missing a straight one from Monty . Brainless .

He has succeeded in being picked for the last 2 tests based on his scratchy innings at Lords where had England held the catches he would have been carrying drinks from thereon .
 

JASON

Cricketer Of The Year
Barney Rubble said:
KP and Colly both off the field for England, which is worrying - Samit Patel on for Collingwood, and KP's replacement is none other than the Fresh Prince of Trent Bridge himself, Will Smith. :laugh:
:laugh: :laugh:
 

social

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
300 runs (or thereabouts) will always be a big ask in the 4th innings against a bowler as great as Murali. Plus, everyone is saying that the wicket is getting slower, lower and turning more.

BTW, when did Monty become a decent judge of what constitues good batting conditions?
 

JASON

Cricketer Of The Year
Barney Rubble said:
I'm not so sure they do have enough. I think SL are showing that there isn't as much in this pitch for the bowlers as the first innings would indicate. Granted, we have the Murali factor, but it's not like we've comprehensively failed to deal with him so far. If we avoid losing wickets to the seamers we've got a shot at chasing anything shy of 320-odd I'd say.

Ever the optimist, me. :cool:

I agree there isn't much in this pitch and Murali may not be a factor as everyone makes out to be !!

I was slightly disappointed that Vaas and Kapugedera didn't pick on the fact that England bowlers were pretty tired towards the end and accelerate the scoring a little - they could've added another 20-30 which would be crucial.

England bowlers will be refreshed on Day 4 and they will need to start allover again to try and build this lead by another 50 at least .
 

JASON

Cricketer Of The Year
social said:
300 runs (or thereabouts) will always be a big ask in the 4th innings against a bowler as great as Murali. Plus, everyone is saying that the wicket is getting slower, lower and turning more.

BTW, when did Monty become a decent judge of what constitues good batting conditions?
From what I saw on Day 3 its really not that slow and the difficulty in scoring runs is not as difficult as predicted, given SL lower order are still managing to get runs , although they were principally blocking for most of Day 4 . (despite that they still managed to score 240 runs - so it really doesn't seem to have slowed that much )

Also the turn for Monty was very variable in that although in the first 2 sessions he got a fair amount of turn after pitching from some rough patches (created from foot marks) in the last hour he suddenly appeared to have lost the turn he was generating and went flat ( partly attributable to tiredness after bowling 35 odd overs) .

So IMO , if English batsman get settled in with a mindset of staying put for 5 sessions and playing Murali out , they may succeed in chasing even 400 as there is plenty of time to make those runs (5 sessions even )
 
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JASON

Cricketer Of The Year
wpdavid said:
Agreed. Tomorrow's going to be tortuous from an English pov, and it looks like we'll get exactly what we've deserved in this series. But credit to SL who have shown much more fight than we were led to believe.
This Test is still in the balance and England IMO are still capable of pulling this one and taking it 2-0 .
 

JASON

Cricketer Of The Year
Barney Rubble said:
I like being optimistic - occasionally it pays off. Guess who was the one who predicted an England win in the Ashes. ;) :D
I predicted a 2-2 draw then but didn't predict England winning it .Faaip de oiad can vouch for my prediction.:)
 

JASON

Cricketer Of The Year
Barney Rubble said:
I like being optimistic - occasionally it pays off. Guess who was the one who predicted an England win in the Ashes. ;) :D
Can I be the first to predict on CW that England will retain the Ashes with a 2-2 series draw this coming Summer down under .:)
 

JASON

Cricketer Of The Year
Looking ahead to the ODIs , I think Mubarak (never again should be picked ), Vandort (Test batsman not suited to ODIs) , Samaraweera (occasionally a Test batsman:) ) , Malinga and Kulasekera should be sent back after the Test series.

In their place I would pick Arnold, Ian Daniel , Ruchira Perera and Dilhara Fernando . Gayan Wijekoon is not quite there IMO, and nor is Dhammika Prasad . But the selectors might spring a few surprises . As a surprise selection I would pick Tamil Union's Jayaprakashdaran who played a solitary ODI against India.
 

vic_orthdox

Global Moderator
JASON said:
I was slightly disappointed that Vaas and Kapugedera didn't pick on the fact that England bowlers were pretty tired towards the end and accelerate the scoring a little - they could've added another 20-30 which would be crucial.
But, to play the devils advocate, as a SL fan you'd want these two to make the majority of the runs for the rest of the innings. If you had've lost another wicket before stumps, it suddenly exposes the rest of the order, and maybe your bowling the next morning. Vaas and Kapu have to play calm, responsible innings.
 

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
JASON said:
On this pitch which still seems to be playing true if any 2 English Batsman get settled in even 400 would be gettable . SL need to try and bat through the first session on Day 4 at least .

I would agree with Monty Panesar , in that England would still fancy chasing a target of 350 , given Murali only took 3 wickets in the first innings and there is hardly a major demon in this pitch or significant turn (I know the detractors would say KP turned it too but SL will need to convince 2 umpires 200% to get any wickets here and this pitch from what I have seen is not too difficult to bat on .)
You are being extremely negative here. 300 will be a very competitive target with Murali/Sanath bowling in the 4th inning. There is a difference between Panesar and Murali and not to forget the fact that SL batsmen are better players of Spin than English batsmen (barring KP).

Anything above 350 and I gaurantee SL victory. You are right, Murali took only 3 wickets, but Sanath took 2 wickets as well. Right Now SL are on top and IMO right now the balance is about 70-30 in their favor.
 

JASON

Cricketer Of The Year
Blaze said:
Sri Lanka will be dangerous with Murali but I still see England getting themselves out of trouble...
Me too !! If they do, it will be a rousing win and a great character building experience for more than a couple of them and will woo them onto retaining the Ashes . It would also silence all their critics.

But I hope and pray for SL's sake that we can add at least another 50 to this lead.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
JASON said:
I was referring to the one he gave Sanga out . And I think you are referring to the inconclusive one before.
Yes, but were not both decisions incorrect?

Therefore the first one has to be considered, not ignored.
 

Pedro Delgado

International Debutant
Enjoyed Saturday even though we were outplayed for most of the day, it really was scorching weather, marching up the Radcliffe Rd stand is no fun, thankfully we found the lifts later.

We're going to lose this match aren't we.
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
I worry about the Pakistan series as I watch us meandering to a drawn series against Sri Lanka. Hope the boys can prove me wrong today, gutted I have to work I reckon it'll be a cracking day of cricket.
 

wpdavid

Hall of Fame Member
Pedro Delgado said:
Enjoyed Saturday even though we were outplayed for most of the day, it really was scorching weather, marching up the Radcliffe Rd stand is no fun, thankfully we found the lifts later.

We're going to lose this match aren't we.
Yes we are, and it's not going to be pretty. Presumably we'll once again have the embarassing sight the last 3 SL wickets taking their lead somewhere past 350 without the slightest trouble until a couple of them get bored. Thereafter, we can safely expect MM to clean up by lunch on Day 5.
 

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