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***Official*** South Africa in New Zealand 2017

wellAlbidarned

International Coach
Just a small fielding complaint amongst the myriad of complaints I have against these declining blackcaps, which is this;

Kane, get back in the ****ing gully, captain baz fielded himself at midoff partly because he couldn't catch anything behind the wicket with out gloves on.

Plus tactical and motivational reasons.

Kane's squeaky voice isn't going to motivate the macho fast bowlers.

So, only 1 out of 3 reasons for Kane to field at midoff as captain hold up to any scrutiny.

Midoff is a position for a resting bowler, who can give some tactical and technical advice to the actual bowler.

In summary. GET BACK IN THE ****ING GULLY! And sort out this ****ing rabble by leading by example in your best position.
all kane does at mid off is to tell the bowlers to forget whatever jurgensen told them
 

Meridio

International Regular
Just a small fielding complaint amongst the myriad of complaints I have against these declining blackcaps, which is this;

Kane, get back in the ****ing gully, captain baz fielded himself at midoff partly because he couldn't catch anything behind the wicket with out gloves on.

Plus tactical and motivational reasons.

Kane's squeaky voice isn't going to motivate the macho fast bowlers.

So, only 1 out of 3 reasons for Kane to field at midoff as captain hold up to any scrutiny.

Midoff is a position for a resting bowler, who can give some tactical and technical advice to the actual bowler.

In summary. GET BACK IN THE ****ING GULLY! And sort out this ****ing rabble by leading by example in your best position.
Ha yeah this is actually something that annoys me too. Ability to influence the game by having our best fielders in their best positions is far greater than any supposed tactical advantage of having the captain at mid off. Back your bowlers to actually know what they're ****ing doing.
 

wellAlbidarned

International Coach
on the bright side, jeets is gonna be unplayable if he can keep jadejaing. No need for any flight just keep darting it on the stumps.
 

straw man

Hall of Fame Member
Unbelievable that we drop yet another catch behind the wicket, and even worse it's Elgar this time. That Watling only just got his fingers to it but first slip was nowhere near suggests there's something wrong with the positioning too.
 

hendrix

Hall of Fame Member
Unbelievable that we drop yet another catch behind the wicket, and even worse it's Elgar this time. That Watling only just got his fingers to it but first slip was nowhere near suggests there's something wrong with the positioning too.
Watling's footwork has seriously deteriorated
 

wellAlbidarned

International Coach
Unbelievable that we drop yet another catch behind the wicket, and even worse it's Elgar this time. That Watling only just got his fingers to it but first slip was nowhere near suggests there's something wrong with the positioning too.
Nah BJ shouldn't have had to dive for that. He was heading towards the leg side and was caught off balance making it look hard.
 

Zinzan

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Watling's footwork has seriously deteriorated
Really? I feel he's always been a technically horrible keeper with very little in the way of natural talent with the gloves, even though he's probably done a fair job and punched above his weight for a few years now.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Watling's footwork has seriously deteriorated
I'm not convinced he's even the best gloveman in the eleven anymore. Good to see him finally make some runs again in the first innings, but he's still a far cry from the WPWKB status he once enjoyed.
 

hendrix

Hall of Fame Member
Really? I feel he's always been a technically horrible keeper with very little in the way of natural talent with the gloves, even though he's probably done a fair job and punched above his weight for a few years now.
nah I wouldn't say he was ever a natural keeper like McCullum was but he worked really hard on his footwork and got to be pretty damn good IMO.
 

Fuller Pilch

Hall of Fame Member
I think that session will cost NZ the test. We needed to take all our chances, review well and not suffer serious injuries (not to mention bat well 2nd time around) to have a chance. Elgar looking good for motm at this stage.
 

straw man

Hall of Fame Member
Nah BJ shouldn't have had to dive for that. He was heading towards the leg side and was caught off balance making it look hard.
Without the replay in front of me, yes he was caught off balance but I'm not really sure why. It's not like the edge caused a massive change in direction.
 

straw man

Hall of Fame Member
I think that session will cost NZ the test. We needed to take all our chances, review well and not suffer serious injuries (not to mention bat well 2nd time around) to have a chance. Elgar looking good for motm at this stage.
If we'd taken chances and dismissed both Elgar and Duminy, then yeah I think we'd be in a strong position to push for a win. As it is, a draw is overwhelming favourite, with still the chance of an NZ collapse giving SA the win.
 

wellAlbidarned

International Coach
we've definitely missed a shot to win the test, but to say we still can't take it is absurd. Getting really difficult to bat out there and we can still roll them for under 150.
 

Zinzan

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I think that session will cost NZ the test. We needed to take all our chances, review well and not suffer serious injuries (not to mention bat well 2nd time around) to have a chance. Elgar looking good for motm at this stage.
Yup, the gap between the mental resilience in the field was never more pronounced than SA in the field vs. us today... even their DRS decisions....

I thought we might be a little better using DRS without Southee there butchering them all.

Incidentally since Patel's return from apparently becoming this new bowler on the back of his county experience, he's taken 8 wickets @ 50 in 3 tests, and on wickets which have spun.
 

Athlai

Not Terrible
Yup, the gap between the mental resilience in the field was never more pronounced than SA in the field vs. us today... even their DRS decisions....

I thought we might be a little better using DRS without Southee there butchering them all.

Incidentally since Patel's return from apparently becoming this new bowler on the back of his county experience, he's taken 8 wickets @ 50 in 3 tests, and on wickets which have spun.
:laugh:
 

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