***Official*** South Africa in India

[Sanz]

Well you have yourself said that he was superb earlier in his career. So he has proven he is not a choker.

Yes, he has..but but that was 5 years ago..SRT is on decline since 2000/2001. Weird Logic though..Just because Imran Khan has proven in the past that he could bowl FAST consistently, doesn't mean he can now.

 

[Sanz]

Clearly ignoring the part where I said I had shown you had lied in the other thread and quite blatantly at that.

**Show Mirror to Pratyush **

 

[Pratters]

First get the sequence right.. I said 'choker chokes again..' and then you barragged in your post...You can conclude whatever you want..everyone knows how you respect SRT and that he is your hero. I know I am not biased..and that is enough for me. If you think I am then please continue to believe so..I know I cant help clear that doubt from your mind unless I bow the GOD and pray 5 times a day.

Dravid isn't a choker and he proved that in SL innings (which you will probably ignore). just incase you are accusing me of not answering your posts (which is a waste though)
http://forum.cricketweb.net/showthread.php?t=15384&page=34&pp=15&highlight=choker

I am not saying Dravid is a choker.

I am saying that by the logic of calling Tendulkar a choker - and then trying to substantiate it by the averages you did - averages which are worse in Dravid's case - you should have called Dravid a choker too.

You did not. So it is undeniable regarding your bias.

Also, keep continuing the GOD thing and bowing to him 5 times thing. I dont care regaring the extras you use in your post.

Try to show you are not bias by giving a reason opposing what I am saying. Else shut your nonsense.

 

[Pratters]

Yes, he has..but but that was 5 years ago..SRT is on decline since 2000/2001. Weird Logic though..Just because Imran Khan has proven in the past that he could bowl FAST consistently, doesn't mean he can now.

Why do you want Tendulkar in the team considering he is a choker, selfish. Why play him at all.

 

[Sanz]

That is debatable. Lara in my opinion could be the worthy player of the decade candidate.

As I said...IMO it was SRT, if you think BLC was the player of 90s then please feel free to believe so.

But it is interesting that you regarded Tendulkar so great earlier and crap after a point and started on this funny attitude towards him, crying out loud when he fails.

It's no different than Kapil Dev was great early in his career, but crap after a point same is true for many cricketers Miandad, Richards etc..

He is not God like you hope he is by expecting him to perform every time.

Another lie, I dont expect him to perform him in every match..but just some consistency when the going is tough. I guess that's too much to ask.

 

[Pratters]

**Show Mirror to Pratyush **

Well that doesnt change the fact that you lied quite blatantly.

 

[Pratters]

just incase you are accusing me of not answering your posts

You have not answered the point of Dravid properly beating about the bush. Showing whether I have answered your posts or not does not show any thing to that effect that you have not answered the point of Dravid straight on.

 

[Sanz]

I am not saying Dravid is a choker.

I am saying that by the logic of calling Tendulkar a choker - and then trying to substantiate it by the averages you did - averages which are worse in Dravid's case - you should have called Dravid a choker too.

You did not. So it is undeniable regarding your bias.

I didn't need to..Dravid's performance in SL series spoke for him, SRT's didn't.

Try to show you are not bias by giving a reason opposing what I am saying. Else shut your nonsense.

I dont need to..you can continue to have whatever opinion you want to have about me. I couldn't care less. I know that I am not biased and that is enough for me.

This is not your forum that you are telling me to shutup, if you have problem with my posts or opinions then there is an IGNORE button somewhere, feel free to use. I will continue to post my opinion.

 

[Pratters]

Another lie, I dont expect him to perform him in every match..but just some consistency when the going is tough. I guess that's too much to ask.

You have neem the one who has been lying. On the one instance of mine I said I was wrong.

Also if you had not expected him to perform every inning, maybe you would not have jumped on him for failing after two matches vs Sri Lanka. But you did jump on him. So it does prove you expect him to perform every inning.

Too much of expectation from a player and then acusing him when he doesnt perform properly reflects badly on you more than any thing else.

 

[Sanz]

You have not answered the point of Dravid properly beating about the bush. Showing whether I have answered your posts or not does not show any thing to that effect that you have not answered the point of Dravid straight on.

As I said...Dravid's performance in SL series while chasing was enough to conclude that he isn't a choker..only a fool would need to seek more proof .

 

[Dasa]

Well, Sanz, it seems to me that you just like to argue...and you have this kneejerk anti-SRT reaction because you just want another excuse to argue...

 

[Pratters]

II dont need to...

Then you have no right to accuse some other player of being a choker when by the same criteria some one else falls in the same brand of choker.

You do not go on calling every one a choker.

So it is quite clear you are biased.

 

[Sanz]

You have neem the one who has been lying. .

Really ?? then please show where I have said that I am "expecting him to perform every time"

Obviously you cant prove that..and I cant help if you can imagine weird things..Anyways..I have to rush..shabba Khair..

 

[Pratters]

Really ?? then please show where I have said that I am "expecting him to perform every time"

The lying part is firstly referred to another thread where you talked nonsense and started with - yes lies. Also, you have been crapping on Tendulkar by referring to him as God and saying God has failed and stuff when he is not scoring as well.

 

[Pratters]

I blocked the nonsense by ignoring the guy earlier only to find he was trying to hit me with remarks when I unignored him.

I have no option but to ignore him again though. Mr Sanz is free to continue with his nonsense - stuff like 'Tendulkar is your hero and so you believe he can do no wrong. I may have to bow my head in prayer five times to Tendulkar' and what not without adressing points. I wont see it though.

 

[shaka]

I guess NZ played SA into some good form.

 

[Jono]

Damn you Kiwis

 

[Anil]

Damn you Kiwis

no we have to face tough opposition only then will we know our true potential, only then will we get better.....i would like to see how the team reacts to this loss....that will show the true character of the team...

 

[magsi23]

India and Pakistan are worlds two most inconsitent teams in my opinion one day they will thrash best team in the world and next day struggle to beat zimbabwe and bangladesh, why? i'll never know

 

[adharcric]

There are many positives to be taken from this defeat to South Africa. The mere fact that we lost 3 world-class batsmen (sehwag, tendulkar, dravid) for a total of 11 runs and 2 other solid ones for another 2 runs and still managed to put up a total of 249 tells something about this side. From 33 for 5, Yuvraj, Pathan and Harbhajan rescued the innings and made a match of it. Just think about that ... 249 runs, with those 3 guys doing nothing and the likes of dhoni and yuvraj getting run out foolishly ... talk about potential.

South Africa's seamers should be given credit for bowling well early on, but the dismissals of Kaif, Dravid and especially Gambhir were terrible. Sehwag was out to some extraordinary fielding by Prince, and Sachin apparently wasnt even out (he has been lunging at too many of those deliveries unsuccessfully though, its a problem). Pathan bowled very poorly but Agarkar was solid for the most part with some bad balls as usual. RP Singh was very good again, and Harbhajan was economical but he needs to be able to take big wickets for India too. I would say we should rest Pathan to make him realize he needs to bowl like a genuine strike bowler if he wants to retain that role in the team, but he has also been carrying the load with the bat.

Looking forward to the Indian batting rebounding in the 2nd ODI, should be exciting.