***Official*** South Africa in England

[tooextracool]

IMO, had his fingers under the ball the whole time. thats a poor call

 

[Goughy]

Dont know whether he hit it but that wasnt a no-ball. Bowden just wanting to be part of the action.

 

[Richard]

Pitch it up FFS. This short nonsense is no use, and you're wasting your energy.

 

[cowboysfan]

Definitely carried for mine, however the third umpire can't give that cleanly due to the doubt instilled by that replay series & the foreshortening effect.

A completely different situation to de Villiers earlier, before anyone says so.

Non-stop here...

I dont think so-it definitely didnt carry.

 

[steds]

That absolutely stank. I don't reckon it was a clean catch, but Amla walked. He gave himself up, therefore he was out. Since when has it been up to the coach and captain whether the batsman walks or not? He shouldn't have been allowed to have been sent back. You can't walk and then decide "hang on. Someone else doesn't think I was out. I might stick around."

 

[tooextracool]

Anderson really is bowling beautifully atm. really wish he and fred could bowl unchanged for the rest of the match.

 

[Dissector]

Catch looked not out to me. At the least you had to give the benefit of the doubt. Real drama here; Flintoff can really bring a game alive.

 

[Neil Pickup]

Sorry, but there is absolutely no evidence to be definitive in the negative.

And it helps if you appeal for LBW, England...

 

[Richard]

That absolutely stank. I reckon it wasn't a clean catch, but Amla walked. He gave himself up, therefore he is out. Since when has it been up to the coach and captain whether the batsman walks or not? He shouldn't have been allowed to have been sent back.

Whether it's wrong or right it's not like that's never happened before. Pietersen against India at Trent Bridge last year, f'rinstance.

In other news - appealing for out lbws is a good idea.

 

[Goughy]

That absolutely stank. I reckon it wasn't a clean catch, but Amla walked. He gave himself up, therefore he is out. Since when has it been up to the coach and captain whether the batsman walks or not? He shouldn't have been allowed to have been sent back.

Im increasingly convinced it carried. Slo-mo changes things and it looked good to start with, it still looks good and Amla saw it and walked.

However, completely agree Re: batsman and coach. Someone needs to get fined or banned.

 

[Richard]

Sorry, but there is absolutely no evidence to be definitive in the negative.

at the fact that it's pretty much a case of all non-UK posters thinking it's n\o, pretty much all UK-ers think it's out.

 

[SirBloody Idiot]

Im increasingly convinced it carried. Slo-mo changes things and it looked good to start with, it still looks good and Amla saw it and walked.

However, completely agree Re: batsman and coach. Someone needs to get fined or banned.

Preferably Smith.

 

[Tom Halsey]

Caught cleanly IMO, always think slow motion replays can tend to make things look less cleanly caught than they were.

Would like to change this assessment having seen a close-up of it.

 

[Jono]

Prince pulled out very late there.

 

[Richard]

I'm honestly amazed anyone thinks they can know either way. There is not a chance anyone who was not standing right by Michael Vaughan could have seen whether it carried or not.

Bloody hell, can you pull out any later than that? Thought he was giving himself room to smash it through the off. FFS people have moved around behind the bowler's arm far too much today. And when it comes to sightscreens that have not been programmed properly...

 

[Richard]

And sure enough, next ball clipped beautifully for four.

 

[Neil Pickup]

I'm honestly amazed anyone thinks they can know either way. There is not a chance anyone who was not standing right by Michael Vaughan could have seen whether it carried or not.

Bloody hell, can you pull out any later than that? Thought he was giving himself room to smash it through the off. FFS people have moved around behind the bowler's arm far too much today. And when it comes to sightscreens that have not been programmed properly...

This is one of those really really rare occasions when Richard makes perfect sense.

 

[stumpski]

Prince pulled out very late there.

He was within his rights, the sightscreen suddenly changed to an ad display. Seems a bit daft that Jimmy has to bowl it again though.

 

[Goughy]

At what point can we say the lack of overs for Pattinson shows that Vaughan didnt really want him and doesnt trust him?

 

[stumpski]

Interesting conversation between MPV and ABdeV tonight, I reckon.