TT Boy
Hall of Fame Member
I’ve lost count on how many times his pinged the Bangladeshi batsman in this test. They tour South Africa later this year, God help them.
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**Official** South Africa in Bangladesh
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Protean
State Regular
Ouch.
Dedicated! So glad I only start class at 11.
TT Boy
Hall of Fame Member
I usually fit my work and studies around the cricket but tours of the subcontinent are absolutely killers, especially when you are a part-time personal trainer and you haven’t had the energy to work out for weeks, let alone write your papers.Ouch.
Protean
State Regular
The ODI's are starting even earlier
Bangladeshi tail showing their team how it's done.
Corli
U19 Cricketer
The Radio 2000 commentators can't believe it, neither can I. Well done him anyway.Peterson gets his 5-fer!
TT Boy
Hall of Fame Member
Yeah, I think I may miss them, unless I wanna starve, fail and have the G/F leave me.The ODI's are starting even earlier
Corli
U19 Cricketer
Do you think we'll play two spinners (assuming Harris is first choice), though? That would be an extremely un-South-African thing to do...
Protean
State Regular
Meh. Hasn't seemed the case much lately. In this match Steyn has bowled more than anyone including Peterson, he is probably tired too.
Morkel finishes it up!
TT Boy
Hall of Fame Member
No, Robbie P should if he tours carry the drinks but some CSA clown from the Cape, may induce from such a performance that this guy should start in India, in front of Harris.
Whoever, the selectors took once Harris became injured was always going to be a problematic given that they were realistically going to do ‘well’ at some point, given the conditions and opposition. Botha failed which was good but this guy actually bowled rather well, which isn't good.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
****. I just realised that this test was on Setanta. I was actually following it on CricInfo live for a while without realising. The first one probably was too. So dire.
NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
Langeveldt in watching T20 shocker...
TT Boy
Hall of Fame Member
Philander is out of the series. South Africa have decided against a replacement. Two spinners from RSA now looks increasingly likely and with Botha set to be axed from next months (test) tour of India, a good series from Harris and Johan's international career will be over.
And time 2009 comes he will welcomed by Leicestershire as a Kolpak.
And time 2009 comes he will welcomed by Leicestershire as a Kolpak.
pup11
International Coach
South Africa are in with a real chance of climbing to the top spot of ICC Odi team rankings, they would climb to the no.1 position dethroning Australia (
), c'mon Bangers please don't get whitewashed, beat them atleast once.
Australia's identity crisis
Peter English
March 5, 2008
At the start of the season Australia were intent on retaining their world-beating status and by the end were just trying to limit damage. With much hindrance from a committed opponent, they failed with both aims. The No. 1 one-day ranking will be lost to South Africa if they beat Bangladesh 3-0 this month and the drop would be another dent for a team that has struggled with its identity since the fractious Sydney Test.
In the first week of the New Year Ricky Ponting won a world-record equalling 16th Test in a row and was preparing to head to Perth for what should have been the easiest contest of the series with India. Instead it became the most difficult due to a mix of public reaction to Sydney, a flat surface and a touring team that had been galvanised during their threats to take all bats, balls and briefcases home. Australia lost at the WACA and over the next two months were mostly unrecognisable from the all-conquering outfit of 2007.
How much Australians turned against their national team is hard to gauge exactly, but the players were shocked when large sections criticised their overall performance at the SCG. The Test ended in the most remarkable result but was instantly over-shadowed by a rash of controversies. Following team discussions covering behaviour and attitude, the side retained its spirit-of-cricket pledge and vowed to be "hard but fair" - the same way they believed they had always performed.
Australian players in the Perth contest said it was the quietest Test they had ever been part of due to the fear of offending. Australia lost in four days, the streak was over and the aura slowly diminished. Having shed a quartet of outstanding competitors the previous summer, Australia had actually done well to keep things together for so long. Adam Gilchrist's departure, which he revealed during the draw in Adelaide, will make things much harder as they try to recover ground and mojo.
While the Test series was a success despite the swing in the final two games, Australia's CB Series stumbled towards disaster even when they were winning. Four bonus points were collected by the home team, but the fringe benefits flattered an outfit that was struggling with fatigue, a range of issues that never seemed to disappear, a wobbling batting order and an underperforming captain and key allrounder. A more vibrant Indian side was not brought down by the various controversies, which seemed to act as spurs instead of weights.
If Ponting and Andrew Symonds had completed merely average returns things could have been different. Instead the pair, which was heavily involved in the Indian Premier League developments, combined for only 365 runs in ten matches and the bowlers could not sustain their miracle escapes in the two matches that mattered most. Nathan Bracken, who is now a one-day specialist, was incredible in capturing 21 wickets and the Man-of-the-Series award, while Brett Lee was inspirational until the finals, when he looked as tired as a new parent.
In a three-team tournament Australia needed more from than their batsmen than finishing fifth (Gilchrist), sixth (Michael Clarke), seventh (Matthew Hayden) and eighth (Michael Hussey) on the run list. It was the lack of output that resulted in the absence of the series trophy for the second year in a row. A 2-0 defeat was an appropriate outcome and something the players accepted.
India irritate Australia's senior men in a way no other team can manage and the uneasy relationship adds to the home side's confusion. Australia knew they should have been better than their eclectic opponents, but they were unable to remember the valid reasons why.
The age-old talk became nasty by modern standards and India's new breed had not been kicked around in previous series. Big-name reputations didn't matter and Australia's substance went missing. The future will be fascinating as the players wrestle with their outlooks while battling opposition sides that will now give themselves a serious chance of winning.
Peter English is the Australasia editor of Cricinfo
© Cricinfo
), c'mon Bangers please don't get whitewashed, beat them atleast once.Australia's identity crisis
Peter English
March 5, 2008
At the start of the season Australia were intent on retaining their world-beating status and by the end were just trying to limit damage. With much hindrance from a committed opponent, they failed with both aims. The No. 1 one-day ranking will be lost to South Africa if they beat Bangladesh 3-0 this month and the drop would be another dent for a team that has struggled with its identity since the fractious Sydney Test.
In the first week of the New Year Ricky Ponting won a world-record equalling 16th Test in a row and was preparing to head to Perth for what should have been the easiest contest of the series with India. Instead it became the most difficult due to a mix of public reaction to Sydney, a flat surface and a touring team that had been galvanised during their threats to take all bats, balls and briefcases home. Australia lost at the WACA and over the next two months were mostly unrecognisable from the all-conquering outfit of 2007.
How much Australians turned against their national team is hard to gauge exactly, but the players were shocked when large sections criticised their overall performance at the SCG. The Test ended in the most remarkable result but was instantly over-shadowed by a rash of controversies. Following team discussions covering behaviour and attitude, the side retained its spirit-of-cricket pledge and vowed to be "hard but fair" - the same way they believed they had always performed.
Australian players in the Perth contest said it was the quietest Test they had ever been part of due to the fear of offending. Australia lost in four days, the streak was over and the aura slowly diminished. Having shed a quartet of outstanding competitors the previous summer, Australia had actually done well to keep things together for so long. Adam Gilchrist's departure, which he revealed during the draw in Adelaide, will make things much harder as they try to recover ground and mojo.
While the Test series was a success despite the swing in the final two games, Australia's CB Series stumbled towards disaster even when they were winning. Four bonus points were collected by the home team, but the fringe benefits flattered an outfit that was struggling with fatigue, a range of issues that never seemed to disappear, a wobbling batting order and an underperforming captain and key allrounder. A more vibrant Indian side was not brought down by the various controversies, which seemed to act as spurs instead of weights.
If Ponting and Andrew Symonds had completed merely average returns things could have been different. Instead the pair, which was heavily involved in the Indian Premier League developments, combined for only 365 runs in ten matches and the bowlers could not sustain their miracle escapes in the two matches that mattered most. Nathan Bracken, who is now a one-day specialist, was incredible in capturing 21 wickets and the Man-of-the-Series award, while Brett Lee was inspirational until the finals, when he looked as tired as a new parent.
In a three-team tournament Australia needed more from than their batsmen than finishing fifth (Gilchrist), sixth (Michael Clarke), seventh (Matthew Hayden) and eighth (Michael Hussey) on the run list. It was the lack of output that resulted in the absence of the series trophy for the second year in a row. A 2-0 defeat was an appropriate outcome and something the players accepted.
India irritate Australia's senior men in a way no other team can manage and the uneasy relationship adds to the home side's confusion. Australia knew they should have been better than their eclectic opponents, but they were unable to remember the valid reasons why.
The age-old talk became nasty by modern standards and India's new breed had not been kicked around in previous series. Big-name reputations didn't matter and Australia's substance went missing. The future will be fascinating as the players wrestle with their outlooks while battling opposition sides that will now give themselves a serious chance of winning.
Peter English is the Australasia editor of Cricinfo
© Cricinfo
Protean
State Regular
South Africa are in with a real chance of climbing to the top spot of ICC Odi team rankings, they would climb to the no.1 position dethroning Australia (
, like they were before the WC? I wouldn't worry too much yet..