*Official* Second Test (Lord's, London) 28 June–2 July

[OverratedSanity]

That's just such a strange mistake for an umpire to make. You accept making errors on whether it's going too high or sneaking down leg or whatever because that's a judgement call but that's clearly, visibly hit him well outside the line. How does that happen?

Maybe he's not positioned himself properly to be in line with middle stump so balls that clearly hit outside might seem to be hitting in line to him. I remember Ashocker de silva doing this in a WI vs Aus test once where he gave two lbws in a row to balls that pitched a foot outside leg stump.

 

[Burgey]

maybe his eyes were not in proper position on that ball

@cnerd123 ?

Did he move them from the front of his head?

 

[TheJediBrah]

Maybe he's not positioned himself properly to be in line with middle stump so balls that clearly hit outside might seem to be hitting in line to him. I remember Ashocker de silva doing this in a WI vs Aus test once where he gave two lbws in a row to balls that pitched a foot outside leg stump.

That would be so much worse than just having terrible judgement lol

"it's ok the umpire just got it wrong because he didn't know where to stand, no big deal"

 

[Michelle Fivefer]

If England were playing better, they would be winning.

If England were playing better than they have been, they might just be heading to level par. “Winning” is some way off.

 

[Burgey]

I think England has found a good one in Josh Tongue. Action is all his own but good seam position and gets it through and has decent control too. I’m not sold on his trajectory for out here as a real wicket taker because it favours taller guys with bounce here more often than not, but he’d still do a job. Looks a good find.

 

[Nintendo]

"We wanted to be emotionless when we played our cricket. Assasin-like."

 

[Croadymeister]

I think England has found a good one in Josh Tongue. Action is all his own but good seam position and gets it through and has decent control too. I’m not sold on his trajectory for out here as a real wicket taker because it favours taller guys with bounce here more often than not, but he’d still do a job. Looks a good find.

Oh yeah some good that is when we are so far behind this game and rest are trundlers. Be glad when this is over and we deservedly go 2-0 down for such stupid batting decisions

 

[Nintendo]

I think England has found a good one in Josh Tongue. Action is all his own but good seam position and gets it through and has decent control too. I’m not sold on his trajectory for out here as a real wicket taker because it favours taller guys with bounce here more often than not, but he’d still do a job. Looks a good find.

I criticized his initial selection but he's been fantastic so far. England have a knack for pulling one or two quality seamers out of absolutely nowhere every summer. If only they could keep them fit.....

 

[TheJediBrah]

Why is Jimmy trying to bounce out Marnus with the keeper up to the stumps

 

[Burgey]

Oh yeah some good that is when we are so far behind this game and rest are trundlers

Given Wood hasn’t been ready and Archer is basically a non-starter for forever now, he’s stepped up really well. Asks a fair few questions and challenges both edges. And not yet infused with England team cuntishness. Gotta say I’m a fan

 

[chris.hinton]

Given Wood hasn’t been ready and Archer is basically a non-starter for forever now, he’s stepped up really well. Goes really well

The County System is the best in the world

 

[Uppercut]

I criticized his initial selection but he's been fantastic so far. England have a knack for pulling one or two quality seamers out of absolutely nowhere every summer. If only they could keep them fit.....

Yeah they can always find a decent third or fourth seamer. It's one of the reasons I'm so puzzled by Wood at home still being a thing. But it'll be interesting to see if they can pull a whole new attack together when Broad and Anderson retire.

 

[Nintendo]

Yeah they can always find a decent third or fourth seamer. It's one of the reasons I'm so puzzled by Wood at home still being a thing. But it'll be interesting to see if they can pull a whole new attack together when Broad and Anderson retire.

There's a million guys like sam cook and jamie porter who can do a broad/anderson light job in county cricket right now. I'm not that worried about it. Think losing those two will be good, playing them plus robinson in the same team when stokes is bowling <80 mile an hour on one knee doesn't work.

 

[Spark]

There's a million guys like sam cook and jamie porter who can do a broad/anderson light job in county cricket right now. I'm not that worried about it. Think losing those two will be good, playing them plus robinson in the same team when stokes is bowling >80 mile an hour on one knee doesn't work.

They have like 1300 Test wickets between them. You're not "replacing" that any time soon. People chronically underrate just how difficult it is to replace that sort of experience.

 

[honestbharani]

This must be painful viewing for the England fans out here. Maybe some disagree with my view that Australia were spooked by Bazball in the first game, but right now, I think England have been spooked by Australia's come from behind win there and they seem to be playing with a very cluttered mind, which I thought was the one thing Bazball was gonna avoid.

 

[TheJediBrah]

There's a million guys like sam cook and jamie porter who can do a broad/anderson light job in county cricket right now. I'm not that worried about it. Think losing those two will be good, playing them plus robinson in the same team when stokes is bowling >80 mile an hour on one knee doesn't work.

Agreed.

ftr I think you keep mixing up your > & < signs

 

[Uppercut]

There's a million guys like sam cook and jamie porter who can do a broad/anderson light job in county cricket right now. I'm not that worried about it. Think losing those two will be good, playing them plus robinson in the same team when stokes is bowling >80 mile an hour on one knee doesn't work.

I mean if they're done they're done. But they've been single-handedly ending series in a couple of sessions every summer for over a decade. It's not so easy to replace that.

 

[Nintendo]

They have like 1300 Test wickets between them. You're not "replacing" that any time soon. People chronically underrate just how difficult it is to replace that sort of experience.

The experience is definitely hard to replace and playing away from home is gonna be hard without those two keeping it at >2.5 an over consistently at one end, but I don't think it's gonna hurt them too much at home purely on a bowling front. Woakes is a fantastic bowler in english conditions, him and robinson + a tongue/potts/archer/wood as the third seamer and leach as the spinner is fine for england conditions.

 

[Nintendo]

Agreed.

ftr I think you keep mixing up your > & < signs

Thanks for the heads up, didn't notice.

 

[Croadymeister]

This must be painful viewing for the England fans out here. Maybe some disagree with my view that Australia were spooked by Bazball in the first game, but right now, I think England have been spooked by Australia's come from behind win there and they seem to be playing with a very cluttered mind, which I thought was the one thing Bazball was gonna avoid.

Haven't watched a ball since we got out