*Official* Second Test at Trent Bridge

[Jarquis]

Yeah, but today it just wasn't a percentage shot on the risk/reward front.

 

[Jacknife]

Yeah, but today it just wasn't a percentage shot on the risk/reward front.

Yes agree he should have put it away given the situation and conditions but I suppose it reflects his confidence at the moment.

 

[vic_orthdox]

He atleast connected with hit 4/5 times before and hit 2/3 boundaries with it before he got out,tbf

I was watching intermittently while at work, and saw him play and miss a few times to it, and cut one or so that was genuinely short. I'm talking about the back/late cut off a length, like the one he got out to and the one that flew over Dravid's head.

 

[Jono]

Also, Bell had a number of goes at that late cut, which he played very well in Australia. However, he played it on harder wickets, and when he was well in and 40-60+. Couldn't believe he kept on going for it today, it's just a shot that's not in the circumstances.

Dhoni had a deep point and was enticing Bell to play that shot. They basically gave him the single. It was a clear tactic and I noted it at the ground immediately. Either they get the new batsman (Prior or Bresnan) on strike if he connects or they get Bell edging it.

It ultimately worked really well.

 

[vic_orthdox]

The one that Bell tries to play though heads down towards third man. He did it all the time to Siddle in the Ashes, and it's the one that got him out today. Fair, left the gap there, but you take that off prods and pushes. Decent captaincy, but stupider batting.

 

[Jono]

Where were you Jono? I was high at the top of that media stand behind the bowlers arm, think its called Radcliffe Road End. Great view, but the atmosphere in the stand down to my left, square of the wicket looked amazing.

I was in the William Clarke stand. Great view (even though it was side-on and I generally prefer behind the bowler's arm) but it was an alcohol free stand so there wasn't too much of an atmosphere. I'm pretty sure I know what stand you are referring to. Lots of singing occurred in the 3rd session.

 

[AlwaysProteas]

Still early days in the test match but still unbelievable how India manages to bounce back every time after their heavy defeats in the first test.

 

[Bun]

One note on commentators- listened to TMS up until lunch, Boycott compared Sreesanth and Kumar to good club bowlers (he rated Sharma though clearly)...

haha boycs has just gone... old.

England v India: tourists will not be able to stop Andy Flower's side going to No 1, says Michael Vaughan - Telegraph

People need to learn not to judge kick back indian team by their performance in the first test of a series.


Expect slow starters India to retaliate at Nottingham | Vic Marks | Sport | The Guardian


most sensible article.

good un that vic marks.

 

[Jono]

We Indian fans should not be proud of the fact that India start slow. I find it increasingly frustrating. Stop using the first test of a series as a warm up ffs. Imagine how good the team would be if they actually prepared properly.

 

[Top_Cat]

Sree for a bag today. Feel it in my bones.

Was gunning more for 4+ but considering how many predictions I get wrong, I'll claim it.

 

[Son Of Coco]

seam no where near as dangerous to top batsmen as swing

Exactly, McGrath never troubled any of the top batsmen after all

 

[Son Of Coco]

He atleast connected with hit 4/5 times before and hit 2/3 boundaries with it before he got out,tbf

He also tried it to one that was way too close and edged it over first slip...I think the point is that if he was a bit smarter he would've put it away. At least until it presented less of a risk (maybe later on in the day if things settled down a bit)

 

[Spark]

I have to say, under the circumstances, 220-odd isn't the worst score at all. Very much defendable. Fine effort from Broad.

 

[Vroomfondel]

Dhoni had a deep point and was enticing Bell to play that shot. They basically gave him the single. It was a clear tactic and I noted it at the ground immediately. Either they get the new batsman (Prior or Bresnan) on strike if he connects or they get Bell edging it.

It ultimately worked really well.

that's a very astute observation. I wish those jokers in the studio/production would show us a full field-map more often. Rarely do the commentators (at least on espn-star) talk about what a captain is _trying_ to do, rather they talk about what he should be doing ie. what the gas-bag holding the microphone would have done in his last test (in 1875).

aside -- I know Dhoni isn't an idiot, which makes his ridiculous fields to broad/swann even more frustrating -- why?! ffs.

 

[Spark]

:O at the ball that got Swann. Broad will love that.

EDIT: Broad actually does love these situations, doesn't he? This is about the fourth or fifth time he's made a sizeable score from 6-7/100.

 

[silentstriker]

Considering the conditions, England shouldn't be too unhappy. I think about 260 would have been par but considering the wickets lost in the 2nd session, this is an excellent score. That's the advantage of having the deepest lineup in cricket. 1-10 (maybe not #6) can all bat and #11 can hang around. Signs of fletchers insistence on having cricketers with multiple skill sets evident there.

India need a lead of at least 150 and that's going to be very very hard. Someone needs a big century. The good news is that barring the weather, there will be a result one way or another in this game, which is great to see.

 

[Burgey]

that's a very astute observation. I wish those jokers in the studio/production would show us a full field-map more often. Rarely do the commentators (at least on espn-star) talk about what a captain is _trying_ to do, rather they talk about what he should be doing ie. what the gas-bag holding the microphone would have done in his last test (in 1875).

aside -- I know Dhoni isn't an idiot, which makes his ridiculous fields to broad/swann even more frustrating -- why?! ffs.

They used to show field maps a lot butit really seems to have gone out of fashion. Doesn't show off the latest piece of technology enough I guess.

 

[Anku31]

Just hang around.Dravid & Laxman should just hang around for the morning session.That would put big pressure on England if they could survive the first session without losing a wicket.

 

[smash84]

if conditions on the 2nd day are similar to the first day then 220 seems a par score

 

[CricAddict]

Just got back from Nottingham and a great day at the cricket.

I would have India on top, surviving that last session could be crucial, even if it was a little lucky. You need luck to survive in those conditions, and they did as much as they could to minimise the risks. Impressive batting.

I don't know why some people are seeing today as a vindication of "i told you England were overated/****". That is twice that England have had to bat in horrible conditions, they've done bloody well imo. If the sun comes out tomorrow India couldn't have it their way any more than this.

Tomorrow will be exciting, gutted i'm playing tbh. If India are bowled out for 300 England are still in this. It won't be easy batting last.

It is more a reaction of 'Underrate India at your own peril'. Also after the first test, the English media and former English players (so called experts) were portraying the team as if it is the most perfect team to assemble on a cricket field ever and that India had no chance whatsoever.