*Official* Second Test at Trent Bridge

[centurymaker]

On a pitch England had just scored 500 on.

what are you saying?

india bowled pies and the aggressive english line-up took them apart .

we saw enough balls keeping low, bouncing more, seaming etc in india's brief 2nd innings...

 

[Uppercut]

Only the odd one. I mean, they were clearly much better batting conditions than on day one- that's why Dhoni rightly chose to bowl first. It was a pretty big toss to lose.

 

[Son Of Coco]

In my opinion the difference between the two teams in the first couple of tests hasn't come down to when they've batted or what the pitch was doing. The biggest difference between the two teams is the consistency of the English bowling attack and the fact they bat past 6.

England could bat 1st or 2nd and it wouldn't really matter. Their bowling attack has been impressive enough to bowl out India regardless of the situation. Conversely, in India's case it doesn't matter what the wicket's doing and how much help it's offering if you can't bowl consistently over two innings.Australian fans know exactly how you feel, and it's ****ing frustrating to watch!

 

[centurymaker]

Only the odd one. I mean, they were clearly much better batting conditions than on day one- that's why Dhoni rightly chose to bowl first. It was a pretty big toss to lose.

And thats all it takes, when the bowling is this good.

 

[centurymaker]

what's also interesting is that they never really bowled any bouncers at Laxman, dravid or tendulkar....
maybe they thought it would be a waste..

focused all their energy on getting these guys forward/ playing across.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

what's also interesting is that they never really bowled any bouncers at Laxman, dravid or tendulkar....
maybe they thought it would be a waste..

focused all their energy on getting these guys forward/ playing across.

England's planning in the last 10 years has been very good. Fletcher started it there was a blip under Moores but Flower has taken it back to the sort of level of 05 where the plans seem to work and the bowlers are good enough to carry them out which always helps.

 

[Furball]

what's also interesting is that they never really bowled any bouncers at Laxman, dravid or tendulkar....
maybe they thought it would be a waste..

focused all their energy on getting these guys forward/ playing across.

Bowling short stuff at those 3 (particularly Laxman) when it's not a weakness would be a waste of time.

 

[centurymaker]

Bowling short stuff at those 3 (particularly Laxman) when it's not a weakness would be a waste of time.

but england never really bowled any. I can't recall any of them ducking.
Any other team would've at least bowled a bouncer every now and then to keep the batsmen guessing and to push them back.

yeah these guys are able to pick bouncers immediately (react quickly).

by bouncers I don't mean short-piched stuff aimed around the rib-cage. i mean proper bouncers.

 

[honestbharani]

The times he has played, he's looked a bit ordinary. Relies far too much on conditions to be ranked too highly I reckon. I do like his bowling a lot more than Zaheer but in all honesty Zaheer is probably the better of the two.

yeah but he s the one who can remain fit.. I mean, I think Zak is the slightly better bowler of the two at the moment myself but what is the point of being that slight bit better if you can't even get on the park often enough...

 

[smash84]

yeah but he s the one who can remain fit.. I mean, I think Zak is the slightly better bowler of the two at the moment myself but what is the point of being that slight bit better if you can't even get on the park often enough...

yeah seems like the difference between Brett Lee and Shoaib Akhtar or Shane Bond