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*Official* Second Test at Lord's - Aug 12-16 2021

mr_mister

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Indeed, but the point is he has never averaged much over 30, so hard to give him faith in any position. Stokes is averaging considerably higher, it is of course chicken or egg, but again he keeps getting picked, and through that International recognition has been in multiple franchises, probably a very rich man, which he probably couldn't envision as a Worcestershire Journeyman seven years back at 27, I doubt he's cursing the selectors too much. He has obviously performed to do that, but never consistently that incredibly.
he was averaging 35 as late his 43rd test with the bat.

Got 4 tons in 2016 which I would guess is the best year any of Stokes, Bairstow and Moeen have had with the bat. He's a far cry from that now
 

grecian

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he was averaging 35 as late his 43rd test with the bat.

Got 4 tons in 2016 which I would guess is the best year any of Stokes, Bairstow and Moeen have had with the bat. He's a far cry from that now
Fair enough didn't know that.

He was excellent in India at 4, I suppose they could have kept him there. Look I'm not saying he hasn't been mucked about in the order, I just think most others have been too, in our struggles to try to make the flotsam and jetsam of the top order look better.

He has batted well so far today, unlike he has for the last few years where he has been loose as ****.
 

mr_mister

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Fair enough didn't know that.

He was excellent in India at 4, I suppose they could have kept him there. Look I'm not saying he hasn't been mucked about in the order, I just think most others have been too, in our struggles to try to make the flotsam and jetsam of the top order look better.

He has batted well so far today, unlike he has for the last few years where he has been loose as ****.
fair enough yeah. possibly playing devil's advocate here a bit

funnily enough Steve Waugh never got more than 4 tons in a year. Did it 3 times though. Mark Waugh only managed it once

I remember thinking he was gonna kick on after 2016, it didn't seem like a fluke but an announcement Moeen was here. sucks it didn't pan out
 

cnerd123

likes this
Isshhaannnttt.

Stage set for Curran to **** us over tho

Who do you drop? I don't think we can afford Shami's profligacy anymore. Two games running he's gone at 4 an over. Inexcusable for an experienced bowler.
really tough call, but yea that would be it I think.

Re: Ali - he's only playing because the tail would be too long if he didn't. No Stokes or Woakes. Anderson/Robinson/Wood should occupy 9-11. Curran at 7 is too high. Makes sense tbf.
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
We're in danger of throwing this one away, aren't we.
TBF I'd have snatched your arm off for 340 before play started today, so think any more runs from here are a bonus.

Game's gonna be set up in the third innings.

Can't be two many batsman who've faced two hat-trick balls in one innings either, can there?
 

biffins

Cricket Spectator
Think these ones always have some portion of the ball touching the turf. Helps when fingers are clearly presented under the ball.

That side-on replay makes it look very clean though. Daylight between fingers and ground.
ah ok. I only saw front replay.
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
You don't think?

He's been asked to bat at literally every spot from opener to 9 at one point or other. Doesn't scream of a coaching set up who know what a player's strengths are.
Hasn't he been with 3 or 4 coaches now though? 2 captains too, i guess?
 

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