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Official Pro-Wrestling Thread (WWE, TNA, ROH etc.)

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thats really true.. i can't see the ppv this time, at work.. so can someone post the results and stuff..
 

Agent TBY

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Helms just won the Cruiserweight match.

JBL beat Lashley via interference by Finlay. (I picked it here first people, Lashley being booked against Finlay)
 
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ash chaulk

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Angle def. Undertaker retains Haevyweight
Orton def. Rey Mysterio orton wins reys title shot
Benoit def. Booker T benoit wins us champ
Matt Hardy and Tatanka def. MnM non title
JBL def. Lashley
Helms defeated 8 others to retain crusierweight
 

masterblaster

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ash chaulk said:
Angle def. Undertaker retains Haevyweight
Orton def. Rey Mysterio orton wins reys title shot
Benoit def. Booker T benoit wins us champ
Matt Hardy and Tatanka def. MnM non title
JBL def. Lashley
Helms defeated 8 others to retain crusierweight
Cheers mate.

Disappointed and angered that Randy Orton won, but then again this is WWE where sense goes out of the window. Couldn't Matt Hardy find a better partner? Looks like JBL didn't want Lashley to pick up the win, well least the cruiserweight match would've been good. Angle retains over Undertaker in no surprise. I guess it's Kurt Angle vs Randy Orton at Wrestlemania 22.
 

masterblaster

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shaka said:
I hope Rey gets a shot @ whc soon.
I doubt it mate. WWE don't think he's 'Heavyweight' material despite the fact that he's huge with the fans and would make a great ambassador for the company. But he deserves to win the World Heavyweight Championship on his own terms rather than using Eddie's name as a catalyst for his reign. In the future he might win and be given an Edge like reign, or he might even be added into the mix with Kurt Angle and Randy Orton.
 

Agent TBY

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I actually think it's going to be a triple-threat, really. And if it is a triple threat, Rey's going over. For sure.

Lashley was green as well, a green-coloured hell, and he had no business going over someone who had been built up as a main-eventer for the past couple of years. However, it was only last month, when JBL jobbed to the Boogeyman in under five minutes, so I guess that argument goes out the window.

The Matt Hardy storyline is ********, unless he turns on Tatanka and becomes part of MnM&M. It still is ******** to do it with Tatanka, though.

The US Title seems to be in limbo. There seems to be no long-term booking plan at all. Use it as a midcard title instead of handing it over to former main-eventers and wrestlers who really should be main-eventing now, as a reward, will you?

I'm actually surprised at how much air-time Helms is getting since winning the title. Could we be witnessing the turning-around of the cruiserweight division?!

And last but not the least, the Undertaker-Kurt Angle match has been said to be freakin' awesome. I knew that there'd be a big-time main-event feel to it, considering the calibre and the overness of the two involved, but I didn't expect people to be applauding Undertaker for putting on a Great match at the end of the night. Is Kurt Angle the next Shawn Michaels, in terms of putting on four-star matches with brooms, or even Orange-skinned Goblins?
 

duffer

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You guys might be interested in this rcent Observer report:

Meltzer's Site said:
Top story was about Bret Hart agreeing to be in the Hall of Fame. Meltzer said Bret has mainly been talking to Kevin Dunn about the deal. Bret feels this will be his way of saying a final farewell in public to WWE and all his fans. He DOES NOT want to be at WM 22 the next day. He is writing a book that he wants to get done quickly and he is said to only be up to his life from 1999. After the Hall of Fame show, he wants to leave and either go back to Itlay or home to Calgary. Meltzer assumes they will pressure him to come to WM 22 and if he gets there they will try to push him to get involved with whatever is planned for HBK/Vince McMahon.

Bret has been talking to people from TNA like Scott D'Amore, Borash, and Double J. All along Jarrett said in his gut he wouldn't do anything with them despite the others in creative and management hoping he would. Meltzer said when Jarrett got word that the announcement from Raw was made at the taping about him in for the Hall, he told people "I told you so". Meltzer said WWE may try and make Hart sign a legends contract but Bret is name enough where he could refuse. But if he signs it, it would no doubt stop him from appearing on TNA TV. He said at the moment a second Bret DVD is planned as well as a photo type coffee table book.

The issue talked a lot about the heat Vince and WWE is getting in the locker room and even in creative for the Eddie angle. Meltzer shared letters from people that wrote in to Dan Whaler's who contributes to the Observer website. One was from a memeber of the creative team that obviously wanted their name withheld. He said that Orton's comments about being in hell was pulled from the script but Steph McMahon wanted it put back in and it was approved by Vince. The person said they all felt sick about it and they knew how bad it was going to go over especially in the locker room. This person said that there is no arguing with Vince because his excuse with something like this is always "Look at the big picture." Vince and Steph think this stuff will be a great way to get heel heat on Randy Orton. This person ended with strong words saying "A lot of guys are simply fed up with the McMahon way, and Vince is going to get that message when it comes to contract renewal time."

Andrew "Test" Martin wrote in and said WWE keeps getting lower not only with the crowds and payoffs, but in taste. He said he was concerned on how Eddie's kids would be treated by friends and "cruel" kids at school who hear all this stuff on TV. He also felt bad for Eddie's wife having to hear it as she stood by him.

In more "Vince is Evil" news, in the TNA segment there were interview notes from Jackie Gayda. She feels that she was fired for refusing to pose for Playboy. She said Stacy and her were offered to pose a few years ago and they both turned it down. That issue ended up being turned into Torrie Wilson and Sable together. Then in typical WWE revenge booking fashion, there was an angle where Stacy and Jackie had a feud with Torrie and Sable saying they were jealous of them that they got to pose instead.

In TNA news, 186 people voted TNA Against All Odds a "Thumbs Up". There were 0 "thumbs down", and one in the middle. Meltzer gave Christian/JJ ***1/4, Joe/Daniels/AJ ****1/4, and Team 3D vs. Team Canada ***1/4.

Tommy Dreamer told CM Punk that he could work ROH's date last Sat. with the conditions of he couldn't be advertised, he couldn't job, he couldn't wrestle or be involved with anyone from TNA, and it could only be a one time thing. From there Dreamer left to do an indie date in England. He didn't tell anyone else in WWE that he gave Punk permission including Johnny Ace.

Meltzer said the situation "exploded" at Raw on Monday. Vince and Steph went up to Ace and gave him a bunch of heat asking him why he let a member of WWE appear on a show with "so many TNA stars". Even though a lot of the wrestlers by this time knew that Punk did the ROH show (as well as it being on the net), Meltzer said Ace was "blindsided" by the McMahon's appoarch. All the heat then went to Punk and he told them Dreamer approved of it, so then Dreamer got the final heat. Meltzer said from day one guys like HHH, HBK, Hayes, and even Arn Anderson have been all over Punk about his work rate. Anderson goes along with HHH and says that Punk "copies" a lot of popular moves from Japan. Meltzer also added that Punk's relationship with Maria "doesn't help matters". He didn't go into detail and I'm really curious as to what he meant.

Possible big news in TNA is that Goldberg seems really interested in maybe doing a few dates down the line. He said he wants to prove himself before retiring from wrestling because his WM match with Brock isn't how he wants to end it. Also Meltzer says he is interested in helping TNA grow a bit because he hates Vince McMahon so much that he won't even say his name. (That's pretty bad and adds to everything else about McMahon in this issue.)

No one really knows what WWE's meeting with Simon Inoki was about but it probably had a lot to do with Brock's situation. Meltzer said at one point WWE was even thinking about going as far as suing New Japan to stop Brock around the world. However that has cooled and they would have a hardtime doing it since NJPW is Tokyo based. They put Simon's picture up on WWE.com in order to mess with TNA since they had a working agreement with NJPW. So it's clear with this and the ROH show that WWE is growing concerned about TNA.

There won't be Taboo Tuesday this year because of low buy rate but the same style of event will be on Sunday Nov. 5 and they are calling it "Cyber Sunday". (I can just see the WWE ads for that one with that kind of title. A tease of a guy getting turned on in front of his computer and it cuts to him watching matches or something)
The bold parts sickened me, Vince is obviously going senile and Steph must be as dumb as they come. Apart from the obvious moral and bad taste objections of the whole thing, you can't just put "REAL" heat on someone. If they're to be a convincing heel they earn their heat. Orton isn't a mature enough performer to do that for himself just yet.

But yeah, just d/l'd No Way Out, will write a review after I've watched it.
 

Agent TBY

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duffer said:
You guys might be interested in this rcent Observer report:



The bold parts sickened me, Vince is obviously going senile and Steph must be as dumb as they come. Apart from the obvious moral and bad taste objections of the whole thing, you can't just put "REAL" heat on someone. If they're to be a convincing heel they earn their heat. Orton isn't a mature enough performer to do that for himself just yet.

But yeah, just d/l'd No Way Out, will write a review after I've watched it.
I'll be an optimist, I actually think that it's a way to get Face heat on Rey Mysterio for his eventual title win. I know, it's a pretty ******** thing to do, but Rey-Rey for me really lacks credibility for me right now.

He doesn't have a credible offence, all he does is flippity **** which requires major selling from the other side. He really needs to work on it, and add a couple of killer moves to his set, in order to get fans sold on his serious viciousness, even though he looks like a kid. Doing the "underdog bags surprise win" is only going to work so many times, and stuff like that gets old pretty fast. I'm actually happy he jobbed the shot to Orton, because for one, the current storyline does jack-all for his believability as a champion, and two, he needs to get into a long-running feud with a top main-eventer. A feud which doesn't involve his son, or deep, dark secrets. If he'd beaten Orton, and eventually Angle, his reign would've smacked of "transitional champ" even worse than Edge's reign did.

What would I do? Turn Benoit heel, have them feud till around Summerslam, where Rey captures the US Title in a gimmick match of some sort. Have Benoit regain his vicious streak, let Rey find it. Benoit can then be seamlessly inserted into the main-event program with Batista, or something of that sort till the Rumble, when Rey wins again. This time, make it count.

I think Rey needs another year of building up, but maybe that's just me.
 

masterblaster

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duffer said:
You guys might be interested in this rcent Observer report:



The bold parts sickened me, Vince is obviously going senile and Steph must be as dumb as they come. Apart from the obvious moral and bad taste objections of the whole thing, you can't just put "REAL" heat on someone. If they're to be a convincing heel they earn their heat. Orton isn't a mature enough performer to do that for himself just yet.

But yeah, just d/l'd No Way Out, will write a review after I've watched it.
Agreed 100%, I'll check out No Way Out as well as soon as I can download it.
 

shaka

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is anyone going to the WWE smackdown one nite only event in wellington on Saturday? my brother and I will be there. Never been to Wellington before so it should be fun. I leave tomorrow.
 
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