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Official Pro-Wrestling Thread (WWE, TNA, ROH etc.)

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sledger

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duffer said:


Draw for the #1 contndership on RAW.

Looks like Edge has been shafted though :(
well its pretty obvious HBK will lose to big show so that he can have some sort of feud with vince, HHH will almost certainly get to the final, Kane or masters cannot headline wrestlemania as that would be a joke, seeing as how masters in particular is dire to watch and kanes novelty has worn off totally, RVD may do well here i imagine...as wwe woudl be foolish to waste his va va voom so to speak. Flair is well past it on a side note, why the hell he hasnt been cut is beyond me, as he adds nothing in terms of stunts or anything else for that matter.
 

masterblaster

International Captain
duffer said:


Draw for the #1 contndership on RAW.

Looks like Edge has been shafted though :(
Triple H to win, no doubt about that. I'm actually looking forward to Triple H regaining the belt, since he'll end Cena's joke of a title reign. Can't help but feel sorry for Edge though, he still should be champion.
 

masterblaster

International Captain
sledger said:
i wouldnt really disagree to much with this either tbh, although to say its not entertaining may be slightly innacurate, i would say its still a good laugh, but thats only because its just so much of a joke and awfully put together its funny, mind you some of the storylines are so beyond that...its just awful...really sad...
Depends what you think is 'good' though. I never really liked the outlandish storylines of 1997-2000. The actual 'wrestling' content and quality of matches back then was quite poor, poorer than what it is today.

No Benoit, Angle or Guerrero either on WWE at that time and the only good 'wrestling' you got to see back in those days was from either Edge, Christian, Jericho or The Rock and really the only 'storyline' that gave so much success to WWE was Vince vs Austin.

Personally I liked WWE in 2003-2004 a lot more. Evolution was in full force, the Smackdown six was prominently featured (Brock, Angle, Edge, Mysterio, Chavo, Eddie), we had some great pure wrestling action, guys like Christian and Shelton Benjamin were getting great in ring time. Personally, I thought WWE in 2003-2004 was a really cool period to watch. It all sort of went down when Lesnar decided to leave, and when some genius in the back decided John Cena should be a major star.
 

GotSpin

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
shaka said:
kane v Bigshow looks probable
Typical Kane loses out again. IMO they killed his character when he took off the mask and since then whats happend to him?
 

shaka

International Regular
only sign of a kane resurgence was when he burned JR, and crashed Edge / Lita "wedding"
 

duffer

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
RVD v Carlito was unbelievable. Rob looks like he's worn off the ring rust and Carlito showed us some of the moves that got him over in Puerto Rico. I never realised CCC was that capable in the ring.

The rest of RAW was a bit meh, some good bits with some cringe-worthy bits. At least the Eddie exploitation seems to have ended. Untill Smackdown starts that is...... :@

EDIT: Oh and the Cena haters won't be too happy with what happens either. I felt even more PO'd after watching RAW than after watching the Rumble with regards to 'The Champ'
 
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alternative

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Kane losing it to chris masters was a big surprise for me, but the would love to see triple H win..
 

masterblaster

International Captain
duffer said:
RVD v Carlito was unbelievable. Rob looks like he's worn off the ring rust and Carlito showed us some of the moves that got him over in Puerto Rico. I never realised CCC was that capable in the ring.

The rest of RAW was a bit meh, some good bits with some cringe-worthy bits. At least the Eddie exploitation seems to have ended. Untill Smackdown starts that is...... :@

EDIT: Oh and the Cena haters won't be too happy with what happens either. I felt even more PO'd after watching RAW than after watching the Rumble with regards to 'The Champ'
You said it mate, RVD vs Carlito was a damn good match and the crowd were into it as well. Carlito has impressed me ever since he got into the WWE and I think we may have a future WWE Champion in Carlito. I can't help but feel sorry for Edge, he deserves to be in the mainevent at Wrestlemania, but Foley should bring the best out of him.
 

masterblaster

International Captain
Speaking of Carlito, check these moves out. Carlito executed both of them brilliantly and he's really growing as a performer.





That's one of the best backbreakers I've ever seen. Brilliantly done!
 

ruge

Cricket Spectator
just some of my views/opinions of the WWE right now.. (my 1st post)

I think the WWE's choice for Edge to bank his Money in the Bank title shot at NYR was an attempt to make Edge a greater heel, however as much as he is getting booed at the moment, he lacks the character of a genuine heel, in other words, his character is weak...this would be another reason why he was shafted from the #1 contendership race.

Carlito and Masters are clearly the biggest prospects of the WWE, I just think they're on the wrong brands. Smackdown is far more catered for younger talent to flourish. Raw just doesnt have the wrestlers to proper Carlito and Masters to the main event spotlight.

I dont think it was that great a surprise that Kane lost to Masters. Kane has become a jobber for a couple of years now. I remember in a Wrestlemania a few years ago, JR said that Kane would be the future of this business, but the WWE havent repaid his efforts ever. The only title reign he has had was defeating Stone Cold Steve Austin at the King Of The Ring 98 (after an Undertaker interference) and losing the belt the next night on Raw (one of the best matches in this history of raw, imo.). Its incredible to see how much Kane has changed since he debuted at Badd Blood 97, from being the demonic monster who wouldnt go down to Undertaker (although he lost on 2 consecutive occasions, WM14 and Unforgiven 98) , to losing to people like Matt Hardy and Edge.

Right now, the Raw brand need Triple H as its champion. Although some people boo Triple H, he's a generally respected character. Raw has been having storyline problems for at least 2 years now. Cena's title reign, which bothered me from the beginning, was slowly being rejected by most fans of the WWE, except the young ones. The chorus of boos on Raw main events whenever Cena gone one over whomever he wrestled suggested so. Triple H is the only person on the Raw roster who can fall to either Masters, Carlito, RVD, Edge or Cena and still make the win credible.

Has anyone else noticed the inconsistencies of the storylines on Smackdown? I can't understand how the Undertaker can defeat Orton at Hell In a Cell, then take a break while Orton continues on, only to return for a title shot? Im a great 'Taker fan, but this is a joke. It seems that the Smackdown writers (Re: Stephanie McMahon) is more interested in pay per views than the show itself. Don't get me wrong, i think SD are totally dominating Raw for quite some time now, but the WWE need to drop this 12 PPVs per year thing and keep it at 8, what it used to be.

However, i would have to disagree with masterblaster's comments.....I think the wrestling standard now is far less than those of 1997-2000. You could say that 2000 was a bad year for the WWE while they were taking the younger WCW/ECW talent before the 'Invasion' of 2001, but even JR says that there is a strong shortage of talent right now. Of course, this is simply my opinion! I thought 2003 was a great year, but I didnt find the SD or Raw events to be enjoyable from the 2004-2005 period at all. Personally I found 1998 to be the best year of the WWE, with the Austin/Undertaker rivalry, Undertaker/Kane rivalry, Undertaker/Mankind rivalry, the beginning of the Taker/Kane partnership, DX vs. The Nation, the coming of Rock and Triple H and the usage of Vince McMahon. He seems to be trying to replicate that right now with HBK but its just not working.

On other news, Goldberg might be signing with TNA! This I cant wait to see...!
 

masterblaster

International Captain
honestbharani said:
Everyone just get ready for title reign #20342 for Triple H.
I can't wait for that!

Seriously I'm craving for another Triple H title run at the moment. John Cena's title reign has left me jaded and Triple H on top is never a bad thing. :cool:

Seriously though it'll be a breath of fresh air with Triple H as WWE Champion. You can't give him all that 'backstage politics' stuff either because he's stayed out of the spotlight ever since Wrestlemania 21 back in April 2005. He put over Batista in ways that nobody else would have and lost to him at least 3 consecutive times on PPV.

Now I know Triple H winning the title isn't a great move and it really replicates what the fans were wanting before, but I'd take even Chris Masters as WWE Champion right about now. Anything to get the belt of John Cena. So if it's Triple H, so be it.
 

masterblaster

International Captain
ruge said:
However, i would have to disagree with masterblaster's comments.....I think the wrestling standard now is far less than those of 1997-2000. You could say that 2000 was a bad year for the WWE while they were taking the younger WCW/ECW talent before the 'Invasion' of 2001, but even JR says that there is a strong shortage of talent right now. Of course, this is simply my opinion! I thought 2003 was a great year, but I didnt find the SD or Raw events to be enjoyable from the 2004-2005 period at all. Personally I found 1998 to be the best year of the WWE, with the Austin/Undertaker rivalry, Undertaker/Kane rivalry, Undertaker/Mankind rivalry, the beginning of the Taker/Kane partnership, DX vs. The Nation, the coming of Rock and Triple H and the usage of Vince McMahon. He seems to be trying to replicate that right now with HBK but its just not working.

On other news, Goldberg might be signing with TNA! This I cant wait to see...!
Hey welcome to CW and to this thread, I hope you enjoy your time here. :)

Don't get me wrong, I loved that whole era you were talking about, but I just didn't really think all those outlandish storylines were all that great. I thought the booking at that time was excellent, however the storylines (with the exception of Austin/McMahon and a couple of other things) were pretty poor. The actual in ring wrestling content was quite poor as well.

Which is primarily why I said 2003 and early 2004 were far better in terms of quality of wrestling matches. Paul Heyman was the main guy writing the Smackdown shows at the time and also pitching ideas for Raw and it showed. Evolution, Angle, Eddie, Lesnar, Benoit, Rey and Edge were at the top of their game and Shelton and Christian probably peaked in the WWE at the time and were way over. I've got some great memories of WWE in 2003 and I don't think I've enjoyed any other year as much.

As for Goldberg in TNA, it'd be a big boost but then I'd see guys like Christian, AJ Styles, Christopher Daniels and other talented guys get pushed down because of him. I've never been a big fan of Goldberg's work and it doesn't really bother me if he joins or not. I think TNA would be much more happier if they got someone of the calibre of Chris Jericho, Chris Benoit or Rob Van Dam to join their roster.
 

masterblaster

International Captain
Langeveldt said:
I'm enjoying this mutant Finlay's no nonsense style.. Very entertaining indeed

Finlay's awesome and it's good to see him come out of his temporary retirement. Finlay's got a simple character, no gimmick and he's a brilliant technician to boot. He's 48 years old, so he's not young, but he's certainly got a lot to offer and teach the youngsters about in ring technique while he's at it.
 

masterblaster

International Captain
Well, it's time for TNA's Against All Odds PPV tomorrow and I'm wondering if any of you guys are interested in the PPV?

TNA has been getting bigger and better in the past few months and is starting to threaten the WWE just a little bit. Certainly their in ring product is much better and they are starting to get the storylines going as well.

Well here is the PPV lineup, it looks pretty good and it'll be worth watching.

NWA World Heavyweight Championship:
Jeff Jarrett vs Christian Cage

TNA X Division Championship:
AJ Styles vs Samoa Joe vs Christopher Daniels

NWA World Tag Team Championship:
AMW vs Chris Sabin/Sonjay Dutt

Rhino vs Abyss

Team 3D vs Team Canada

Petey Williams vs Alex Shelley vs Matt Bentley vs Jay Lethal

Well my predictions, Christian Cage to finally win the 'big one' in his career and defeat Jeff Jarrett for the World Heavyweight Championship. Samoa Joe continuing his unbeaten streak in what should be a match of the year candidate. AMW beating the team of Chris Sabin/Sonjay Dutt, Rhino beating Abyss. Team 3D winning and Petey Williams coming out on top in the last match listed.

Looks like a strong PPV, and I really hope Christian wins his first ever World Championship.
 

masterblaster

International Captain
Yeah!!

I think I'm the only Christian Cage fan around here, but who cares anyway!

What a brilliant match to end Against All Odds!

Captain Charisma Christian Cage is the new NWA World Heavyweight Champion!!!!

12 years of hard work, dedication and sacrifice and being pushed down politically have finally culminated into a World Heavyweight Championship victory!

Well done to Christian Cage!

Well deserved! :D :cool:

 
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