Manee
Cricketer Of The Year
Where from, out of interest.
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Official Pro-Wrestling Thread (WWE, TNA, ROH etc.)
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GIMH
Norwood's on Fire
Mania isn't until the end of March, why rush? This is where WWE generally excel themselves, the well-paced Mania build up. I thought it was perfect.
GIMH
Norwood's on Fire
Oh and I haven't seen Impact yet but I'm disappointed that Flair has gone there, and Jeff. Sounds like an interesting show but I don't think it will be enough to ignite a new series of wars just yet. TNA need some fresher idea. Jeff is a good idea as he was HUGELY over this year, but let's be honest, when was Waltman last relevant? 1998?
sledger
Spanish_Vicente
Haha, will always like Waltman, but got to say, there is no way he is of any use in TNA right now, neither is Scott Hall. Ironically I think Waltman could be made credible if he was signed with the E again, and a lot of work was put in, but for TNA this just looks like another case of them signing up an old has been and scraping the barrel, which it is I suppose. Not sure why they have bothered either, an NWO reunion seems to be in the works, but when you already have Hogan, Nash and Hall I'm not sure why the hell you would bother dragging Waltman along as well.
Jeff Hardy is a massive coup though, in him they've signed a guy who is nowhere near past his best, and at the time of leaving the WWE he was right at the top of the company and near enough the most over member of the active roster at the time, the fact though that they seem to have shunted him in at the midcard level and seemingly sent him after the X division title strikes me as a massive waste of his star power to me. The way he showed up after the steel asylum sounds like it was a bit hashed together as well, but I've not seen it.
As for RAW, just watched the segments involving Bret, and they were gold, really really great stuff, marked out for that, has been too long since we've heard that theme tune. Funny how he looked a bit like Raven from 1999 though.
King Pietersen
International Captain
May have to start watching TNA again. Some decent developments since I stopped watching it. Daniels is officially back and out of the Suicide costume, Kaz has returned as Suicide, Hogan, Hardy and Flair have signed, Raven's back, AJ's World Champ, the pretty terrible MEM vs Frontline storyline seems to have come to an end, Amazing Red's back, tis looking good. Just a shame Brutus Magnus and Rob Terry are still about, don't rate them at all. Is nice to see Matt Morgan getting a well deserved push as well. AJ and Morgan are definitely the future of TNA, if it survives long enough of course. Hardy's the main reason I'm thinking of getting back into it though, loved his last spell in TNA, had some epic matches in that spell.
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sledger
Spanish_Vicente
The problem is though, that TNA's main event is totally stale. Even if they shove Hogan in there and the rest of his cronies to feud with Foley, does anyone really want to see that? I for one do not, maybe ten years ago I would have. Otherwise, most of the ME potential from the current crop of guys has been used up. Joe, AJ, Angle, Sting, Jarrett have all had countless matches now, and shunting Foley and Hogan up there isn't going to improve things whatsoever. Though Matt Morgan's push has been great, he is nowhere near over enough to to take on a world title with the hope of improving the image of the company long term. The only guys I can think of who would be well suited to this at the moment would be Bobby Lashley, who appears to be jetting off to try and get more into MMA, and Jeff Hardy who has been put back in the midcard and much as I love the guy I wouldn't say he is the kind of person they ought to be trying to build a company around. All these changes they have brought about have to start working and improving things pretty damn fast, because if TNA can't start to get things on track I doubt they ever will.
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
yeah... reading some of the stuff again, I get the feeling that this whole Vince/Bret/DX saga is far from over.. Vince turning on Bret is just the tip of the iceberg IMHO. If Bret has indeed patched up to at least some extent with Shawn and Trips, I get the feeling this Bret thing will be what causes the DX split... I see Hart Dynasty VS DX for the tag titles sometime with Bret near the ring. Trips goes to attack Bret, Shawn stops him, they argue, HD use it to win the titles.. The titles have got a lot of significance now, given that the men to have held it so far were Chris Jericho, Edge, Big Show, Shawn Michaels and Triple H... So it is a gr8 push for Smith and Kidd... It gives a new dimension for a feud between Shawn and Triple H.. The whole "I m better than you" can get stale very quickly.. It will get real heat for Trips if he were to attempt to pedigree a stroke survivor with concussions in the head like Bret.. And maybe at Mania, it could well be Trips Vs HBK with Vince and Bret in their corners, it could be two seperate matches with storylines intertwined (Vince/Bret and HBK/HHH) or it could be a tag match where HBK can carry most of the load and let Bret juz do his signature stuff and win.. Then Bret can walk away with his having gained real revenge over Vince and with Vince accepting that he is the better man or something in the ring at RAW next week.. And Trips/HBK can continue over the summer. If we get a tag match at WM, it could keep HHH/HBK one on one fresh for Summerslam.
All this is assuming that Bret/Shawn/HHH have made up to an extent. If not, it is obvious these guys will avoid each other for the next 3 months..
All this is assuming that Bret/Shawn/HHH have made up to an extent. If not, it is obvious these guys will avoid each other for the next 3 months..
duffer
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Keep Trips and Shawn as far away from each other as possible let alone involved in Bret's storyline. They are the epitomy of stale on screen and 99% of their matches are complete no-shows with neither of them wanting to lose anything.
Apparently Vince and Hbk both were happy to put it behind them and draw money with Bret's return but Hunter wanted him as far away from the company as possible. Disaster waiting to happen putting him anywhere near it. At least with Taker involved he'll do everything possible to make it work for Bret booking wise which evens up the political aspects of a Vince-Bret and Hbk-Taker combination.
Apparently Vince and Hbk both were happy to put it behind them and draw money with Bret's return but Hunter wanted him as far away from the company as possible. Disaster waiting to happen putting him anywhere near it. At least with Taker involved he'll do everything possible to make it work for Bret booking wise which evens up the political aspects of a Vince-Bret and Hbk-Taker combination.
duffer
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
At least now with guys like Hardy in the mix they are developing some sort of depth in their divisions. Bischoff scares me for them though, he is a proven failure at developing stars and getting them over and is completely inadequate at getting his ME guys work for the company as opposed to themselves.
What they really should be doing now is using guys like Hogan to draw money while at the same time finding and putting over future quality. Still not seeing it from them which makes me believe these new wars will go the way of the first ones. Hope otherwise though, seems a genuinely exciting time to be back into pro-wrestling.
cover drive man
International Captain
Bret Hart-overated? *runs away*
Joke.
Joke.
sledger
Spanish_Vicente
I agree with near enough all of that, my main real gripe with TNA though is that with all this new talent etc... at their disposal, with any luck in about 3 months time they should be arriving at the kind of stage they should have been at a year or two ago. If they could have caught up with the E whilst they went through their sticky mediocre patch rather than arsing around with a load of grandpas on roids then they could have made things genuinely interesting, hey they still might, but now that the E is undoubtedly on the rise and probably at it's strongest and most interesting since 2004 it's going to be a real uphill battle. Like you say though, exciting for the viewer.
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
u know.. all these rumous abt Trips being unhappy with Bret could well be planted by insiders to make it sound like "real" heat between them... It is not unheard of recently, with WWE, to go down that route..
And I think HHH/HBK will be better if they do it with Bret involved.. As I said, it would give a fresh angle to any real keyfabe hate between HBK and HHH. And I don't think HHH is dumb enough to let it leak on the internet that he doesn't like Bret, especially at this point... I think there is a good chance all this is juz a "work" by the WWE to swerve the IWC.
SirBloody Idiot
Cricketer Of The Year
Not sure how the Nasty Boys, as much as I do mark for them, being thrust into a program with 3D does TNA any good.
3D are a shadow of their former selves, and the Nasties are hardly in the position to carry anyone.
3D are a shadow of their former selves, and the Nasties are hardly in the position to carry anyone.
sledger
Spanish_Vicente
Dire. Is about all I have to say about that.
duffer
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Apart from the fact it's been reported since 97 that they hated each other and that HHH-Hbk feuds and matches are stale as **** I'd agree with you.
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