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*Official* Pro-Wrestling Thread II

Spikey

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you're just in time. it appears that NJPW is building towards the rematch

related: leave it alone seth :(

https://streamable.com/i09qb

And Spikey, whats so good about Chris Hero? His elbow move variations are pretty great but I can't get into the guy's wrestling much.
I like this Meltzer quote

Chris Hero is actually really probably one of the best wrestlers in the business right now. I don't think he gets the credit for it, because he's not a high flier, he's just... how do I explain it, he's a guy who just works...very slow and deliberate and makes every single move mean something and he's, um, he got this match over great
He just gets everything over. And yeah he's so good at making it look like he's killing somebody when it's perfectly safe, like the elbows and all the piledrivers he was using in his last indies run
(see:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maFFiMTFOsA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cWuV6bxdqY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjXL5udLdFA)

I can't speak for how he'll go in WWE, but he's just very very good and consistent at what he does. he wasn't wrestling in any promotion that has TV last year (WWE, ROH, TNA, anything in Japan) and he got 14 matches in the Voices of Wrestling 100 best matches of 2016 list (which is probably the most comprehensive end of year list around. The only other person who got close to that number is Will Ospreay), which is nuts. It's funny that the only full match from last year on YouTube is the Cody Rhodes one...which is only decent. Hero is great, but he's not that great....
 

Athlai

Not Terrible
WWE vs. NJPW dream card, go

Okada vs. Rollins
Omega vs. AJ
Tanahashi vs. Cena
Naito vs. Sami Zayn
Ishii vs. Samoa Joe
Goto vs. KO
Elgin vs. dunno, Neville?
Shibata vs. Cesaro
 

Athlai

Not Terrible
Oops forgot to mention Juice as a top NJPW guy. Kushida and Takahashi also hard pressed to miss out, just think that WWE probably wouldn't match up against them well.
 

Athlai

Not Terrible
Yeah, a better than average worker with a lot of potential, but needs to go up a few gears if he's ever to be a great.

I like him a lot just ftr, but he's definitely missing something atm.
Yeah I can get behind that, I just don't think it's really his in ring ability that is holding him back. Reckon he'd be one of the few WWE guys that'd kill it in Njpw.
 

duffer

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Yeah, a better than average worker with a lot of potential, but needs to go up a few gears if he's ever to be a great.

I like him a lot just ftr, but he's definitely missing something atm.
Lacks character development for me. I really don't know "who" he is atm.
 

OverratedSanity

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Still maintain of wwe hadn't ****ed up his return in such a big way, he'd be seen as one of the best. They screwed it up so bad, I still can't believe it.
 

Spikey

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Still maintain of wwe hadn't ****ed up his return in such a big way, he'd be seen as one of the best. They screwed it up so bad, I still can't believe it.
they screwed it up, but it's worth remembering why it was screwed up: so hunter could get a WM match. so it's perfectly believable
 

Athlai

Not Terrible
Yeah no one wanted heel Rollins when he came back, then they sort of saved it with HHH turning on him but then they pretty much just had him be face all of a sudden. Inexplicably, the redemption storyline has only started in the last month or so.

A lot of people say HHH disappearing killed that storyline, but I reckon it was just having Rollins be a good guy all of a sudden without any real redemption. Should have had him turning down shortcuts and against the slimy Rollins ways instead of turning him into a happy go lucky high flier overnight.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
Yeah I can get behind that, I just don't think it's really his in ring ability that is holding him back. Reckon he'd be one of the few WWE guys that'd kill it in Njpw.
Lacks character development for me. I really don't know "who" he is atm.
Yeah agree. His ring work isn't what's missing. He's very good (I'd still say he's considerably below a genuine great like AJ though, but that will hopefully come with time).

Like Duffer says it's his character that needs work. At the moment he's just generic slightly angry face.

He's definitely one of the most promising talents the E has at their disposal though. I really enjoyed his run as WWE champ on the whole (despite the horrible TV booking), and towards the end of it he was getting seriously hot. His match with Cena at Summerslam of that year, for instance, was fantastic. It's like he's taken a few steps backwards since then, but obviously much of that was down to his injury and, like OS says, the botched return. Hopefully he can kick on.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
Yeah no one wanted heel Rollins when he came back, then they sort of saved it with HHH turning on him but then they pretty much just had him be face all of a sudden. Inexplicably, the redemption storyline has only started in the last month or so.

A lot of people say HHH disappearing killed that storyline, but I reckon it was just having Rollins be a good guy all of a sudden without any real redemption. Should have had him turning down shortcuts and against the slimy Rollins ways instead of turning him into a happy go lucky high flier overnight.
Possibly a bit of both tbh.

The sudden change was a bit jarring, but the fans were desperate to cheer Rollins anyway, so I don't think that mattered that much. Trying to build a six month story line around a guy who just wasn't on TV for most of that time definitely hurt things a lot though. Hard to get behind a supposedly heroic figure when all his TV time is basically spent arguing with the main antagonist's wife.
 

Athlai

Not Terrible
Yeah Rollins isn't Omega,Okada, AJ level but he's in the next tier for sure Imo.

Wish Rollins went to Smackdown.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
Yeah Rollins isn't Omega,Okada, AJ level but he's in the next tier for sure Imo.

Wish Rollins went to Smackdown.
Yes me too actually. Not sure why I hadn't thought of this, but now that I have I realise I really really want this.
 

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