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*Official* Pro-Wrestling Thread II

Bahseph

International Debutant
He really was one of the best parts of the show in 2019. If he wasn't around as much I think the view on him would change considerably.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
He really was one of the best parts of the show in 2019. If he wasn't around as much I think the view on him would change considerably.
Undoubtedly imo. He was (and still is, or at least could be) a huge asset to AEW. But he's been extremely over-exposed for the last few years, and could do with a sit on the sidelines for a while.

Also, the whole learning tree gimmick is absolutely annoying AF.
 

GotSpin

Hall of Fame Member
Kurt Angle v Eddie Guerrero popped up on my algorithm. Watched the whole thing before seeing that Jericho match...not a pretty comparison
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
Kurt Angle v Eddie Guerrero popped up on my algorithm. Watched the whole thing before seeing that Jericho match...not a pretty comparison
Tbf that is a match between two ATGs who were always Jericho's in-ring superiors (and who at the time were basically at their peak), so it's not the fairest of comparisons.

That said, Jericho's technical proficiency from earlier in his career is pretty underrated imo. Definitely a brawler these days though.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
Jericho is an excellent point of comparison for emphasising just how excellent the likes of Guerrero, Benoit and Angle really were though.

E.g., There's a fatal four way match from No Way Out 2001 involving Jericho, X-Pac, Benoit and Guerrero. Jericho and Waltman are two wrestlers who I would rate as comfortably above average in terms of their in-ring ability (certainly at that time anyway), but they absolutely couldn't get close to Benoit and Eddie in that match. You can see they're absolutely busting their asses and only just about managing to keep up with them. Benoit and Eddie just doing their thing like it's as easy as walking the dog. They really were that good.
 

GotSpin

Hall of Fame Member
Tbf that is a match between two ATGs who were always Jericho's in-ring superiors (and who at the time were basically at their peak), so it's not the fairest of comparisons.

That said, Jericho's technical proficiency from earlier in his career is pretty underrated imo. Definitely a brawler these days though.
I wasn’t really intending to make a fair comparison tbh. They were just complete masters of their game

I do think Angle was better than Benoit. Might be a minority opinion though
 
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Arachnodouche

International Captain
Never quite got Jericho, Christian, or Edge for that matter. They're all obviously very solid, reliable workers and far from shabby on the mic but...I don't know, I compare their "legendary" status with other bonafide legends who were their predecessors/contemporaries (Hart, Taker, Michaels, Austin, Rock, Angle, Benoit, Eddie, Lesnar) and they sort of are just there without excelling the others in any one department. I suppose they are wrestling's version of ATVG. Is that a fair categorization?

Sad about Sid. I first watched him as Sid Justice which to this day is one of the coolest in-ring names. There used to be a trend in India in the early 90s for wrestling postcards (trump cards too). This is long before the commercialization of wrestling, especially outside the States, so you had to do a fair amount of recce to get what you were after. I had quite the collection which I'd pasted onto a notebook (with a wrestling schoolbook cover no less). Still have it back home I think with a few pages dedicated to Sid.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
Never quite got Jericho, Christian, or Edge for that matter. They're all obviously very solid, reliable workers and far from shabby on the mic but...I don't know, I compare their "legendary" status with other bonafide legends who were their predecessors/contemporaries (Hart, Michaels, Austin, Rock, Angle, Benoit, Eddie, Lesnar) and they sort of are just there without excelling the others in any one department. I suppose they are wrestling's version of ATVG. Is that a fair categorization?
I think it probably is tbh. I love all of them, but they're not (quite) on the same tier as the others you mention, or other really top guys like Cena or Reigns imo.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
There always will be an asterisk next to Benoit. But he's undoubtedly one of the best pro wrestlers ever imo. It's just unfortunate that people being really good at stuff doesn't stop them from doing very bad things.
 

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