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*Official* - Pakistan in New Zealand 2010/2011

Bahnz

Hall of Fame Member
Its not unusual because your not thinking about it. Mark Cosgrove does the same thing. He is unfit and rather slow so he backs up further to avoid finding himself short at the other end. Rigger said the same thing about Ryder's lack of awareness. If he had been concentrating he wouldn't find himself still half way down the pitch when he was run out because he would know Misbah is right next to him especially the way Guptill plays and their previous run out in the test match.
Ryder isn't really that unfit. He's surprisingly quick between the stumps and very nimble. He's nothing like Mark Cosgrove, either in speed or in girth. Mark Richardson is an idiot, don't ever listen to anything he says. Neither this run out nor the one in the test match was Ryder's fault.

In the test match, no batsman would've made his ground. Richardson was just looking for someone to blame because he was upset that New Zealand were losing. Guptill smashed it straight and the bowler got a finger on it. You can't do anything about that unless you actually stay in your crease the entire time, which batsmen don't do because they're rightly always looking for quick singles.

Today, Ryder clearly was concentrating. Concentrating on what Guptill was doing. Misbah was out of Ryder's line of site, and well within Guptill's. Richardson was clutching at straws searching for a way to once again blame Ryder, because he has a reputation of being a bit of a run out risk. Which might be true, or it might not, you'd have to compare the number of run outs that Ryder has been involved with compared to the overall average, which I honestly can't be bothered with. But in this case, it was Guptill's call, he had the best view, he started to go without making a call. Ryder can't be at fault for simply trusting that his partner was making a good decision. He didn't know exactly where Misbah was, and all it would have taken was for the ball to be a couple of meters further away from him and it would've been a single. Guptill was the person to make that judgement and he blew it.
 

BeeGee

International Captain
A painful innings from How, really struggled. His form is so poor at the moment.

The best thing that could come out of this game for NZ is if Guptill and Taylor can have a long partnership here. They could both do with some runs and confidence under their belt going into the WC.
 

Mike5181

International Captain
Lou Vincent would have been a better back up keeper/batsmen tbh. At least if he comes off we would have a decent score on the board.

Or Sinclair.
 

Days of Grace

International Captain
McGlashan will be an ideal replacement at no.7 or 8 if McCullum returns to the top of the order. No problems here.

Oh, wait...
 

Bahnz

Hall of Fame Member
He is a natural athlete more than fit tbh. That's why he still has a lot of injuries despite being able to play those long innings.
Are you a doctor or a physiotherapist? Cause otherwise that smells like pure bull**** to me. I really don't think being a few kg's over weight is the cause of his calf injuries and groin strains. Don't forget, Ryder really isn't that big anymore, he's not that much rounder than Ross Taylor is these days.
 

Blakey

State Vice-Captain
Are you a doctor or a physiotherapist? Cause otherwise that smells like pure bull**** to me. I really don't think being a few kg's over weight is the cause of his calf injuries and groin strains. Don't forget, Ryder really isn't that big anymore, he's not that much rounder than Ross Taylor is these days.
Not that much rounder than Taylor? Aye? He's massively bigger. If they were boxing they would be in different weight divisions.

Clutching. At. Straws.
 

BeeGee

International Captain
Heck even Peter McGlashan may have been the way to go.
You can't possibly be suggesting that the selectors select an actual wicket keeper as the backup keeper? Don't you know that How's fielding is a vital cog in the side?

I weep for NZ cricket.
 

Mike5181

International Captain
Are you a doctor or a physiotherapist? Cause otherwise that smells like pure bull**** to me. I really don't think being a few kg's over weight is the cause of his calf injuries and groin strains. Don't forget, Ryder really isn't that big anymore, he's not that much rounder than Ross Taylor is these days.
Oh now come one. Seriously? Of course it does and you don't need to be an expert to see why he has a mountain load of these injuries when he is still young.
 

Bahnz

Hall of Fame Member
Not that much rounder than Taylor? Aye? He's massively bigger. If they were boxing they would be in different weight divisions.

Clutching. At. Straws.
Taylor is slimmer than Ryder. But this is the player we're talking about.

Jesse Ryder clips the ball towards square leg | Photo | New Zealand v Pakistan | ESPN Cricinfo

Ryder has lost a lot of weight in the last 2 years. And if being fat is a one way ticket to injury, then how come Inzamam played 120 tests? Ranatunga with 93 in an era when SL didn't play much cricket? David Boon with 107.

And it's not like Ryder had a grand history of injuries prior to about the last 12 months, despite being far more overweight than he currently is. Before he pulled a hami in the CT in september '09, the only other time I can remember him being injured was when he slashed his hand to ribbons.
 
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Athlai

Not Terrible
Taylor is slimmer than Ryder. But this is the player we're talking about.

Jesse Ryder clips the ball towards square leg | Photo | New Zealand v Pakistan | ESPN Cricinfo

Ryder has lost a lot of weight in the last 2 years. And if being fat is a one way ticket to injury, then how come Inzamam played 120 tests? Ranatunga with 93 in an era when SL didn't play much cricket? David Boon with 107.

And it's not like Ryder had a grand history of injuries prior to about the last 12 months, despite being probably genuinely obese. Before he pulled a hami in the CT in september '09, the only other time I can remember him being injured was when he slashed his hand to ribbons.
vs.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/new-zealand-v-pakistan-2010/content/image/497922.html?page=1;object=473923

That 3rd picture shows a pretty huge difference between the two.
 
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