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***Official*** Pakistan in England

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greg

International Debutant
grecian said:
Yet I'm not one that feels we should go in with 4 bowlers in Tests, I feel overbowling my avatar has helped to cause his injuries. So if we have to drop one of the batsmen, I go for Colly, but he'll be bloody unlucky, I have to say.

Lets face it Simon Jones is our Shane Bond, theres no point talikng about him being fit, as 90% of the time he won't be. We should use Fred in the type of short fast reverse-swinging spells that hes capable of, 4 or 5 overs bursts at most. Yes he can bowl for long, tight, accurate spells tying down batsmen, but I feel thats denting his wicket-taking abilities.

We should be looking at Anderson, Hoggard, Harmison and Panesar with flintoff to bowl us to victory in the future, who cares about tail-end batting. We've finally got a batting-order where they all average over forty, it should be enough, with Fred and Read to follow the top 5.
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By most accounts Anderson is a worse crock than Jones. And that's the point. The five bowlers case rests on Jones or Anderson being fit. If Mahmood or Plunkett is one then Flintoff probably will probably be "overbowled" anyway (especially if Giles plays to shore up the lengthy tail). Flintoff is overbowled because he is the only bowler we have who (at test level) can do a job in all situations, on most pitches - be the most likely wicket-taker and keep control when the batsmen are on top. And to reduce his load we need other bowlers who can do those things. Picking 10 bowlers wouldn't make a difference if Flintoff is still always first choice in ALL crucial match situations, however tired he may be.
 
andyc

andyc

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Younis Khan (6993) approaching 7000 test runs. Good to see Pakistan putting up a fight here, hopefully they can draw this one (it could really only be an English victory or draw) and then win the next one with Asif back.
 
BoyBrumby

BoyBrumby

Englishman
andyc said:
Younis Khan (6993) approaching 7000 test runs. Good to see Pakistan putting up a fight here, hopefully they can draw this one (it could really only be an English victory or draw) and then win the next one with Asif back.
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Not so sure myself, they've scored at a fair old lick & if they keep going at this rate could be ahead shortly after tea. Small lead & a brave declaration from Inzi early tomorrow & the pressure is right back on us. I don't want to tempt fate but our top order is probably due a failure.

Draw probably favourite by a fair bit tho.
 
Langeveldt

Langeveldt

Soutie
Wow, and here was me thinking Robbie Peterson was the worst cricketer to play for a top flight team.. Sajjid Mahmood making a Rikki Clarke ashes callup look perfectly legitimate :laugh: Can't for the life think of me what Jon Lewis has done so badly to deserve watching this
 
Jono

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
andyc said:
Younis Khan (6993) approaching 7000 test runs. Good to see Pakistan putting up a fight here, hopefully they can draw this one (it could really only be an English victory or draw) and then win the next one with Asif back.
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He's a very underrated cricketer. Has snuck up on everyone really.

Mind you, Mohammad Yousuf has gone from one who was a tad bit overrated to one harshly criticised. You can throw 'ftb' around as much as you want, the fact is in the past two years the man has made runs, and also is making runs when the team needs him to.

I love watching these two bat together. Except against India, and since they do that so often, I'm just used to it now.
 
Gloucefan

Gloucefan

U19 Vice-Captain
Whatever just happened to Inzy it sounds funny.

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Cricinfo: "Panesar to Inzamam-ul-Haq, OUT, fell on to his stumps trying to sweep Panesar. We oughtn’t to laugh but the way Inzamam dived over the stumps and nearly managed to hurdle them was quite comical: his belly took off the stumps as he caved right into them. The crowd immediately began to chant "You fell over! You fell over!" Tell you what, they're right"

Blesss him.
 
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BoyBrumby

BoyBrumby

Englishman
That's one of the more surreal five mimutes of play you're likely to see... :laugh:

I really don't think I've ever seen a less graceful dismissal than Inzi's!
 
Fusion

Fusion

Global Moderator
That's great. Let's trigger a collapse and throw away all the good work you've done. The life of a Pak supporter is not easy. The unpredictability just kills you.
 
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