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***Official*** Pakistan in England

wpdavid

Hall of Fame Member
Goughy said:
Did you see it or are you just listening to TMS? If you have not seen it, it was a big, loud nick with a bit of deviation. 999 out of 1000 that is given.

TMS crew doing what they do best, get easily distracted and lose focus on the cricket.
Probably discussing the Ashes. If anyone spots TMS going more than 5 minutes without mentioning the "A" word, do let us know.
 

Jungle Jumbo

International Vice-Captain
Jones sticks Kaneria back over his head for four to get off the mark and has now played the most Test innings without making a duck.
 

nightprowler10

Global Moderator
Jungle Jumbo said:
Jones sticks Kaneria back over his head for four to get off the mark and has now played the most Test innings without making a duck.
Reason enough for him to play for England for the next 5 years.:p
 

Scaly piscine

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Wtf is the point in declaring on 528... there's three full days plus 20 overs left in the game. What possible scenario is there that makes an extra 10-20 runs in quick time a bad thing?

Can just imagine it how useless those runs would be if Pakistan score 400... as is about what you'd expect...
 

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
Scaly piscine said:
Wtf is the point in declaring on 528... there's three full days plus 20 overs left in the game. What possible scenario is there that makes an extra 10-20 runs in quick time a bad thing?

Can just imagine it how useless those runs would be if Pakistan score 400... as is about what you'd expect...
I hope you understand now. We tried to explain it the last time, but you didn't understand.

3 Wickets for 60 runs or an extra 10-20 runs. Too hard to notice. I am sure you will contue to argue foolishly that an extra 10 runs would have been better.
 

superkingdave

Hall of Fame Member
We got lucky there, bowling was a complete mixture of dross with the occasional good ball, but we'll defnitely take the 3 wickets.
 

FaaipDeOiad

Hall of Fame Member
3/68 is an excellent result for England, but I didn't think the bowling was particularly good, really. Hoggard was somewhat disappointing based on the high standards he has set recently, and Harmison was basically all over the shop, but managed to get a couple of deliveries in the right spot. Certainly a very good return for what was put in.

England in the box seat to win the test, though anything could happen tomorrow if Inzy and Yousuf get going. Pakistan will need to still be batting tomorrow at stumps, or the game is probably gone.
 

superkingdave

Hall of Fame Member
Hoggard i think has a decent excuse in the fact he's played so little cricket recently and then the injury stopped him from getting overs in. Hopefully he'll improve through the game.

Harmison was all over the shop, the final over being a prime example, 4 balls to bowl at Sami and 3 of them are very wide outside off stump.
 

Xuhaib

International Coach
One get the feeling that if Inzi and Yousuf get in ot this track then this match would be saved by stumps tommorow.
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
Great bit of captaincy from Strauss before Farhat's wicket; putting Colly out deep on the hook to give the batter food for thought & then Plunkers pitches one up to clip the top of off. Farhat ended up not actually playing a shot to it at all, so confused was the poor lad.

Top catch from Colly for the second wicket too, one of the very best you'll see. He's some athlete, the boy. As a bowler you must really appreciate that kind of back up.

We need Yousuf & Inzi early. It's a moot point as of yet, but to enforce the follow on or not? It all went a bit pear-shaped when we did v SL, so maybe a quick 200-250 would be the better bet this time.
 

Scaly piscine

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I wouldn't enforce a follow-on, don't want to be relying on Monty particularly to keep Pakistan below 400 or whatever in the second innings so we're not chasing a tricky total. Again the declaration was pointless as far as I'm concerned - weather forecast is great, there were over 3 days left... where's the rush?
 

Scaly piscine

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Anyway must be ages since England have 6 players in the team that average above 43 with the bat as they do currently (Strauss is the lowest of the top 6 with 43.66)
 

Steulen

International Regular
Scaly piscine said:
Anyway must be ages since England have 6 players in the team that average above 43 with the bat as they do currently (Strauss is the lowest of the top 6 with 43.66)
Certainly a difference from a few years ago when Vaughan was the only one averaging over 40 (the Butcher era).
 

Jungle Jumbo

International Vice-Captain
Day Two CW Report:
http://www.cricketweb.net/forum/showthread.php?t=17733&page=30

England continued their strong start to the series by planting themselves firmly in the ascendancy against Pakistan, racking up a huge total before taking three early wickets to end the day with a lead of 462. Three players made hundreds, before some fiery bowling and one breathtaking piece of fielding put the tourist's under severe pressure on day two at Lord's.

Having delayed the taking of the new ball until the restart of play, Inzamam-ul-Haq was soon rewarded as Mohammad Sami removed Alastair Cook just five overs into the morning session, the left-hander bowled as he shuffled unconvincingly about the crease. The early loss of his partner for much of yesterday could have unsettled Paul Collingwood, also unbeaten overnight on a century, but he and Ian Bell consolidated and kept the Pakistani fielders frustrated for the remainder of the morning. Sami however was unlucky not to pick up another wicket, Simon Taufel failing to detect a faint edge through to the keeper when Collingwood had 131 to his name.

Despite the early loss of Cook, Collingwood and Bell were quick to punish some erratic Pakistan bowling, largely caused by Inzamam's curious ploy of giving his seamers little protection on the leg-side. Also peculiar was the introduction of Shahid Afridi ahead of Danish Kaneria, who surely represented the largest threat to Bell before he had settled. Although he initially struggled against the new ball, Bell soon found his feet to move on to 43 at lunch, with Collingwood displaying nimble footwork and wristy strokes off the spinners to go into the interval unbeaten on 179.

After a slow start after lunch, legspinner Danish Kaneria finally made his mark on the match when he lured Collingwood down the wicket, outdoing the Durham right-hander with a skilful combination of flight and drift. Collingwood's 186 lasted 327 balls and contained 23 fours before Kamran Akmal whipped off the bails to complete a neat stumping. The quality of his play off the back foot - namely the pull and cut shots - will stick in the minds of the England selectors when faced with the bouncier Australian tracks this winter.

Geraint Jones was under pressure to perform from the likes of Chris Read, plus the unforgiving ranks of the media, and initially appeared to be doing so. He planted Kaneria back over his head for four to get off the mark, thus becoming the holder for the record of most Test innings without making a duck (45). A flailing cut off Sami which cleared the ropes followed, but the downfall came when a slightly hot-headed sweep shot resulted Kaneria picking up his second wicket, leg before. Liam Plunkett continued his run of failures at Test level with a six-ball duck, as he pushed at a hard-spun Kaneria legbreak and Imran Farhat gratefully clutched the catch at slip, following his three drops the previous day.

Meanwhile, Ian Bell pushed his score past 50, although he lacked the punishing strokeplay that characterised Collingwood's mammoth effort. After tea, Bell returned with renewed purpose, intent on making a third Test hundred, and duly made it, despite some nervy moments as Monty Panesar was forced to block for six balls from the Pakistani spinners. Strauss immediately declared the innings closed at 528 for nine, giving his bowlers just over an hour to make inroads into the tourists' batting lineup. Danish Kaneria's perseverance and accuracy in a marathon 52-over effort eventually returned the figures of 3 for 119.

Pakistan may claim to be the second best Test nation in the world, but their batting has for several years relied on the likes of Inzamam, Mohammad Yousuf and the injured Younis Khan. A youthful top order of Salman Butt, Imran Farhat and Faisal Iqbal would not concern most Test attacks, and certainly not England's. Although Matthew Hoggard and Steve Harmison were slightly wayward, the pace and steep bounce of Harmison proved too much for the tourists once he had zeroed his sight. Butt drove unconvincingly to Strauss at slip at a lifting delivery for 10, but his dismissal was overshadowed by Paul Collingwood's athletic brilliance two balls later. Iqbal could only fend a fearsome snorter from Harmison to third slip, where Collingwood flung himself up and backwards like the proverbial salmon, clutching the ball as it looped high above his head. To compound England's dominance, Plunkett produced a jaffa in the penultimate over to bowl Farhat for 33. Mohammad Yousuf and nigh****chman Mohammad Sami saw Pakistan through to the close of play without further loss on 66 for three - 462 behind England's colossal total.

England 528-9 declared (158.3 overs
AN Cook 105, PD Collingwood 186, IR Bell 100 not out; Danish Kaneria 3-119

Pakistan 66-3 (19 overs)
Imran Farhat 33; SJ Harmison 2-15
 

Magrat Garlick

Global Moderator
Steulen said:
He didn't play for a while.
Yeah, but by then Trescothick had started to average 40.

However, this one was a Test where England fielded exactly no batsman averaging above 40. :D (Butcher 28, Tres 38, Nasser 37, Vaughan 31, Ramprakash 26, Fred 16, White 17, Foster 3...and England still managed a decent result. Was that the Test where Giles bowled to a stacked leg stump field against Tendulkar?)
 

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