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***Official*** Pakistan in England

Xuhaib

International Coach
open365 said:
Who gives a damn what the English media thinks about the Pakistan team??????????????

Do you think the British media will take to kindly to Pakistan ruining the last test of the summer?I sure don't.
Pakistan was forced in to it they are not the only party involved.
 

open365

International Vice-Captain
Xuhaib said:
Its not just a minor umpiring decision of L.B.W or caught behind Hair has hurt Pak in that manner coutless times before but thats not the issue here, overhere he is labeling Pakistan as cheats.
Ok, if no one in Pakistan thinks their team cheat, then why do they care if Daryl Hair does?
 

Xuhaib

International Coach
Neil Pickup said:
Appealling != not taking to the field of play
After such a horrible accusation i dont think anyone can have their mind on cricket,you could just see the body language of the Pakistan team after that incident.
 

FRAZ

International Captain
Scaly piscine said:
How on Earth you got unbanned I'll never know, oh well first person in ages I've added to my ignore list.
Yeah and what are you .. President of UNO, Showing personal hatered ....
Ignore . Yes but who are you ?
Rather than personal attacks , discuss with logic ..
 

Xuhaib

International Coach
open365 said:
Ok, if no one in Pakistan thinks their team cheat, then why do they care if Daryl Hair does?
Because he is umpiring the game and could be a very critical party involved in the outcome of the game.
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
Xuhaib said:
After such a horrible accusation i dont think anyone can have their mind on cricket,you could just see the body language of the Pakistan team after that incident.
Still somehow conspired to dismiss Pietersen tho! Akmal's catch didn't strike me as one of a man just going through the motions!

Inzi looked very jarred off (rightly so if Hair's actions are groundless), but I personally would doubt very much if it was his decision for Pakistan not to return to the field on time after tea.
 

Neil Pickup

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Xuhaib said:
After such a horrible accusation i dont think anyone can have their mind on cricket,you could just see the body language of the Pakistan team after that incident.
Not the issue at hand, is it? Had Pakistan continued to play they would have had unqualified sympathy from 99% of viewers/fans. As it stands they've seriously queered the pitch.
 

FRAZ

International Captain
BoyBrumby said:
Still somehow conspired to dismiss Pietersen tho! Akmal's catch didn't strike me as one of a man just going through the motions!

Inzi looked very jarred off (rightly so if Hair's actions are groundless), but I personally would doubt very much if it was his decision for Pakistan not to return to the field on time after tea.
Its not only about that particular tamper issue ..
 

Langeveldt

Soutie
Neil Pickup said:
Not the issue at hand, is it? Had Pakistan continued to play they would have had unqualified sympathy from 99% of viewers/fans. As it stands they've seriously queered the pitch.
eh?
 

Xuhaib

International Coach
Neil Pickup said:
Not the issue at hand, is it? Had Pakistan continued to play they would have had unqualified sympathy from 99% of viewers/fans. As it stands they've seriously queered the pitch.
The action was correct by playing and accepting 5 runs penalty it would have showed that Pakistan accepts Darrel Hair's decision.
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
FRAZ said:
Its not only about that particular tamper issue ..
What else were they protesting about? Price of oil? Lack of complementary shower caps in the Brixton holiday inn?

Do enlighten me....
 

Neil Pickup

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Xuhaib said:
The action was correct by playing and accepting 5 runs penalty it would have showed that Pakistan accepts Darrel Hair's decision.
This is covering old ground that you've argued with Sean (Faaip) 17 times already and I have no intention of doing so again.
 

greg

International Debutant
Xuhaib said:
After such a horrible accusation i dont think anyone can have their mind on cricket,you could just see the body language of the Pakistan team after that incident.
Rather overstating the "horrible" nature of the accusation, don't you think? It's hardly the first time a Pakistani bowler has been accused (and found guilty) of ball tampering.

I think this whole thing has far more to do with their dislike of Darrell Hair than the accusation itself. If it had been Billy Doctrove who had been the lead umpire in the matter i don't think it would have turned out the same way.
 

Xuhaib

International Coach
BoyBrumby said:
Still somehow conspired to dismiss Pietersen tho! Akmal's catch didn't strike me as one of a man just going through the motions!

Inzi looked very jarred off (rightly so if Hair's actions are groundless), but I personally would doubt very much if it was his decision for Pakistan not to return to the field on time after tea.
They were on the field so they has to keep trying but general body language showed they had other things on their mind.
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
Neil Pickup said:
Not the issue at hand, is it? Had Pakistan continued to play they would have had unqualified sympathy from 99% of viewers/fans. As it stands they've seriously queered the pitch.
But would so much fuss have been made about it? Clearly not. Its likely there would not have been any form of apology, the 5 run penalty still would have stood (i.e they still would have been accused of cheating), and other than categorically denying any such wrongdoing in the media, the issue would have blown off after a while with Hair getting off scott free.

What this has done is, bring to the attention Hair's clear mission. Its unfortunate that its happened in this way, but I'll tell you what, its clear Pakistan haven't cheated today. Because if any player on that team had tampered with the ball, this wouldn't have occurred.
 

FRAZ

International Captain
BoyBrumby said:
What else were they protesting about? Price of oil? Lack of complementary shower caps in the Brixton holiday inn?

Do enlighten me....
Calm Calm .. The circumstances too . The same person making visible mistakes ..
Calm my friend calm . Its alright .. Its not just one decision which is the base of a big trouble .. I have discussed it once that "Hair has a problem " . And it is visible . The question is beyond one odd decision . Question is his "Presence" ..
 

open365

International Vice-Captain
Xuhaib said:
They were on the field so they has to keep trying but general body language showed they had other things on their mind.
Well so what? They're grown men, they should be able to get on with it.
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
greg said:
Rather overstating the "horrible" nature of the accusation, don't you think? It's hardly the first time a Pakistani bowler has been accused (and found guilty) of ball tampering.
I reckon that added more fuel to the fire, then made it less of a horrible accusation.
 

Xuhaib

International Coach
greg said:
Rather overstating the "horrible" nature of the accusation, don't you think? It's hardly the first time a Pakistani bowler has been accused (and found guilty) of ball tampering.

I think this whole thing has far more to do with their dislike of Darrell Hair than the accusation itself. If it had been Billy Doctrove who had been the lead umpire in the matter i don't think it would have turned out the same way.
And Darell Hair does not have a history of getting in to wrong headlines, also their dislike for Hair is clearly justified which you should know if you have witnessed previous Pakistan games that Hait has officiated.
 

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