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***Official*** Pakistan in England

chris.hinton

International Captain
BoyBrumby said:
If Hair has seen something (as seems increasingly unlikely, I have to say) I hope he names the guilty party or parties.

Hair should speak out, but ball tampering is never far away from Pakistan
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
silentstriker said:
Meanwhile, Mike Atherton's opinions on Sky are scathing of Darrell Hair, saying his decision lacks any historical context and that they lacked common sense. "It's bound to inflame things. It would have been best to leave it to the end of the day. He's not a man to back down. He's a stubborn character, a strong character.. so even though Pakistan said they were willing to come back out [after the bails removal/apparent forfeiture] you could imagine him sitting in the dressing room refusing to come out."
But doesn't that issue refer to the Pakistani no-show?
 

Langeveldt

Soutie
BoyBrumby said:
If Hair has seen something (as seems increasingly unlikely, I have to say) I hope he names the guilty party or parties.
I think its a mutal thing, Doctrove (as the other umpire at the time) would have wanted to support Hair, surely
 

Isolator

State 12th Man
FaaipDeOiad said:
It doesn't matter what decision it is, respecting the umpire's decision is paramount.
How far does this go? What if you begin to suspect - or you are absolutely convinced, as may well be the case with Pakistan, that a decision is biased and basically malicious in intent?

Let's take such a case to an extreme point - let's say if there's an umpire of race X and a team of race Y, umpire X denies every single appeal team Y makes, calls no-balls every time there's a bowled or caught, etc.? Does team Y still take it in its stride?

(Mind you, this is entirely a hypothetical question - I'm not suggesting there's anything racial or whatever about the situation.)
 

FaaipDeOiad

Hall of Fame Member
silentstriker said:
Hair needs to come out and name the guilty parties. Otherwise, he shouldn;t have accused anyone.
Hair and Doctrove and Proctor should release a statement indicating what the evidence was (if any), yes. If sanity prevails, they'll do it within the next couple of hours.
 

Fusion

Global Moderator
FaaipDeOiad said:
Way to jump to conclusions. Ian Botham speculated on air that it was Hair who didn't want to come out. According to Shahrayar Khan however, it was "the umpires". Given that the umpires obviously made a mutual decision to award the game to England when Pakistan didn't come out after tea in accordance with the laws, that seems unsurprising to me.
It seems likely to me that Hair made the decision and Doctrove is showing respect to him as a fellow umpire. And I doubt Shahrayar was going to make it extremely personal and accuse JUST HAIR of not coming back. He would want to be more diplomatic than that.
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
Fusion said:
And I doubt Shahrayar was going to make it extremely personal and accuse JUST HAIR of not coming back. He would want to be more diplomatic than that.
Exactly. He's not going to come out and publically blame him. He used his words pretty carefully, as one in his position would.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Scaly piscine said:
So when was Doctrove been in the middle on his own then? Hmm never mind you edited...

Do you have any clue what's going on with the umpires? I don't.
SS knows everything that's going on.

Haven't you seen his comments about SL and how safe it is, even though he's 10000 miles away from there?
 

Langeveldt

Soutie
Dravid said:
No more play for today. What a great sunday night drama, should become a soap.
Ironic considering the only thing thats happened are a few people walking on a couple of balconies saying things..

Beats 7 de Laan or Corrie any day! :laugh:
 

Dravid

International Captain
Langeveldt said:
Ironic considering the only thing thats happened are a few people walking on a couple of balconies saying things..

Beats 7 de Laan or Corrie any day! :laugh:
If you take Cricinfos script it would become a great soap
 

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