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**Official** Pakistan in Australia Thread
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.This reminds me of Richad hadlee. When he was playing county cricket in England, he was given out by a female umpire( they were experimenting by by having matches supervised by opposite ***) when he wasn't out. Hadlee was so furious that he publicy stated that women shouldn't supervise men's cricket.
That statement of Hadlee made headlines and some ppl labelled him as ***ist.
That statement of Hadlee made headlines and some ppl labelled him as ***ist.
Hameed is a one down batsman and NOT an opener.He was used as an opener in oneday matches for Pakistan. He did well at one down spot but when his batting order was messed around and he was asked to open the innings in test matches, he started to falter.Unattainableguy said:
Hameed obviously is a better bet as an opener than Afidi, but i think both are going to flop in the next test match and as such Pak will be better off having a player that can bowl too rather than one that can only bat.
Richard Rash
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I must admit I was suprised when Watson was named. I suppose they are blooding him in in a dead rubber. Also i assume it has something to do with how the pitch is going to play and it suiting him more than kaspa. Nonetheless Kaspa will feel pretty hard done by..he has been bowling superbly since his return from the wilderness
Richard Rash
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Yeah makes sense i sposeCrazy Sam said:
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There are female cricketers who have far more skill and ability than tons of male cricketers combined. Don't be fooled otherwise. Cricket is not a man's game.Richard Rash said:
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That's blatantly ***ist and so incorrect.Unattainableguy said:
Richard Rash
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You are kidding yourself. I am talking at the elite level. You could put Bangladesh against the World Champions in women cricket..NZ and the Women would get killed. I have faced several of the Wellington womens team and they are very average if you compare them to their male counter parts in the Wellington mens teamMr Mxyzptlk said:
Slats4ever
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unfortunately cricket involves more than skill and ability it involves speed, reactions, courage and most importantly physical strength. It's proven that women aren't as strong and fast as men... they couldn't bowl over after over at 150 km/hr, couldn't hit the boundary ropes consistently enough...Mr Mxyzptlk said:
Therefore cricket is quite obviously a game more conjousive to males
Mr Casson
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No, it has nothing to do with a dead rubber. Australia have said time and time again that they are doing all they can to stop this so called "Dead Rubber Syndrome", so why they would then use the opportunity to blood new players defies reason. If you had listened to the explanation of those who made the decision, you would know that this particular team was picked because of the pitch.Richard Rash said:
andyc
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I think that Lehmann's inclusion was based completely upon his performance rather than the conditions, as Ricky Ponting had stated. If Kasper is replaced for a spinner because the pitch is supposed to help spinner's, why would the selectors take out Lehmann, a fairly decent spinner, for a seamer?
Also, I think it's a bit strange that the selectors took out Kaspa for a spinner because the pitch suited spin, yet didn't include Lee in the game at the WACA, which would have suited Lee. While I realise the majority of people in this forum don't like Lee, no one can say the WACA wouldn't have suited him just as the SCG will suit MacGill.
On another note, I am pleased to see MacGill getting a game in, as I feel, just like Kaspa, he's been pretty unlucky. Both MacGill and Kaspa have performed really well in the limited opportunities they've been given to represent Australia. MacGill has the best strike rate out of the current spinners, whilst Kaspa took the same amount of wickets in 2004 as McGrath (47). Surely if either of them had been born in another country, they'd be regulars in the test team.
Also, I think it's a bit strange that the selectors took out Kaspa for a spinner because the pitch suited spin, yet didn't include Lee in the game at the WACA, which would have suited Lee. While I realise the majority of people in this forum don't like Lee, no one can say the WACA wouldn't have suited him just as the SCG will suit MacGill.
On another note, I am pleased to see MacGill getting a game in, as I feel, just like Kaspa, he's been pretty unlucky. Both MacGill and Kaspa have performed really well in the limited opportunities they've been given to represent Australia. MacGill has the best strike rate out of the current spinners, whilst Kaspa took the same amount of wickets in 2004 as McGrath (47). Surely if either of them had been born in another country, they'd be regulars in the test team.
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Im not ***ist but thats a bit naive dont you think...?, lol.... theres no doubt that pro female players would be better at cricket then males who dont play the game at all, but if a male plays cricket for the same period as a female, and undergos the same sort of training, the male will always be superior, unfortunately its a fact of life... the female physical makeup doesnt always suit everything.... again i say that im not ***ist at all and i think there are alot of talented woman cricketers out there, so lets not start a stupid '***ist' argument.... not accusing, just sayingMr Mxyzptlk said:
Ponting is clueless: Shoaib
Ponting is clueless: Shoaib
AN upset Shoaib Akhtar has labelled Ricky Ponting immature and "clueless" in reaction to comments from the Australian Test skipper that the Pakistan speedster didn't try as hard as he could have in the Boxing Day Test.
Showing all the fire that has propelled him to the status as the world's fastest bowler, Akhtar's response to Ponting's assessment of his second-innings performance in Melbourne has set the scene for an explosive third Test, which starts at the SCG today.
"The Australian captain, Ricky Ponting, should be very, very careful," Akhtar told The Sunday Telegraph last night between test-driving a new toy - a Honda CBR 1000 Fireblade motorcycle with a top speed of 270km/h.
"He should know the facts before he says things.
"He was clueless, and what he said showed a basic lack of maturity. He should find out the facts behind what I was doing or not doing.
"It upset me that he doubted my integrity, my loyalty. I have never doubted his integrity.
"I'm a very mature person and I would not come out with a statement about someone without knowing the facts.
"What he said just wasn't nice at all. I mean, just show a bit of maturity, please."
After Australia's nine-wicket victory in Melbourne to wrap up the three-Test series 2-0, Ponting said he would have been a disappointed captain had his fast bowlers performed like Akhtar and Mohammad Sami in the second innings in Melbourne.
"It would appear both of their fast bowlers weren't bowling as quick as they could have done, as we know they can," Ponting said.
Akhtar, 29, said there was simple reason why he bowled off his short run in the second innings.
"The worst mistake you can make is to talk about something without having the facts. The worst mistake you can make is to assume," he said.
"My hamstring was struggling and I was feeling it. I bowled a few off the long run and I said to my captain I was struggling.
"He said come back off a short run.
"In this game, I bowled my heart out. I bowled 27 overs in the first innings and I don't normally bowl that many. I put everything into it and then I had to bowl again the next day. I'm not a machine.
"One guy cannot win the game. In the first Test, we had them 5-78 and that was the best I could do for the team."
Akhtar said his hamstring has responded well to a short break and treatment since the Boxing Day Test and he will be back to full fitness today.
In a cricket world that is fast losing characters and genuine excitement machines, Akhtar is one player who gets the fans' blood pumping as he strives to maintain his status as the fastest bowler in history.
Despite calls for him to shorten his trademark long run-up, Akhtar won't hear of it. He does what he feels comfortable doing.
He concedes that he feels a responsibility to get people interested in watching cricket. He says that cause isn't helped by rules and regulations he regards as inflexible.
"I just don't understand some of the rules of the ICC in that you can't do this and that on the field," Akhtar said.
"Why make cricket boring? It's just ridiculous and the ICC should have more flexible laws.
"The ICC laws are way too strict - pathetically strict. You can still do things in a nice way that doesn't make things boring.
"I understand there are kids watching and we have to be role models. But if you are not using [bad] language - which I don't - why can't you take the mickey out of people with some finger-pointing or something like that?
"The people love it and they want to see more than you bowling quickly. They want to see two warriors getting stuck into each other, but in a nice way.
"My job is to send a batsman off the ground and their job is to stay on the ground.
"You run in 40 yards and the blood is rushing and then someone attempts to hit you for four. As a bowler, what are you going to want to do to them?"
While taking his bike for a spin down at Circular Quay last night, it was clear Akhtar's philosophy on how cricket should be played was a hit with fans.
Young and old stopped to wish him well, while others stood back to just stare at him and his flashy red machine, which came complete with accessories from Monza Imports.
The bike not only epitomises how Akhtar plays his cricket, it epitomises how he lives his life.
Full speed and on the edge.
"I do like to do things a little bit crazy," he said.
"I like to ride bikes and drive fast cars. I like skydiving and bungee jumping and I'm not scared to do anything anywhere.
"The fast bowling thing, that was in me before I got a chance to do all of these other things.
"But I definitely live my life dangerously - very dangerously.
"I like riding bikes at 260km/h."
At home, in Rawalpindi, Akhtar owns a black Honda Fireblade. But because of his popularity, he can't ride it on the streets until 1am.
"It's not easy," he said when asked if he could enjoy riding his machines at home.
But still easier to take than his integrity as a fast bowler being questioned.
The Sunday Telegraph
Ponting is clueless: Shoaib
AN upset Shoaib Akhtar has labelled Ricky Ponting immature and "clueless" in reaction to comments from the Australian Test skipper that the Pakistan speedster didn't try as hard as he could have in the Boxing Day Test.
Showing all the fire that has propelled him to the status as the world's fastest bowler, Akhtar's response to Ponting's assessment of his second-innings performance in Melbourne has set the scene for an explosive third Test, which starts at the SCG today.
"The Australian captain, Ricky Ponting, should be very, very careful," Akhtar told The Sunday Telegraph last night between test-driving a new toy - a Honda CBR 1000 Fireblade motorcycle with a top speed of 270km/h.
"He should know the facts before he says things.
"He was clueless, and what he said showed a basic lack of maturity. He should find out the facts behind what I was doing or not doing.
"It upset me that he doubted my integrity, my loyalty. I have never doubted his integrity.
"I'm a very mature person and I would not come out with a statement about someone without knowing the facts.
"What he said just wasn't nice at all. I mean, just show a bit of maturity, please."
After Australia's nine-wicket victory in Melbourne to wrap up the three-Test series 2-0, Ponting said he would have been a disappointed captain had his fast bowlers performed like Akhtar and Mohammad Sami in the second innings in Melbourne.
"It would appear both of their fast bowlers weren't bowling as quick as they could have done, as we know they can," Ponting said.
Akhtar, 29, said there was simple reason why he bowled off his short run in the second innings.
"The worst mistake you can make is to talk about something without having the facts. The worst mistake you can make is to assume," he said.
"My hamstring was struggling and I was feeling it. I bowled a few off the long run and I said to my captain I was struggling.
"He said come back off a short run.
"In this game, I bowled my heart out. I bowled 27 overs in the first innings and I don't normally bowl that many. I put everything into it and then I had to bowl again the next day. I'm not a machine.
"One guy cannot win the game. In the first Test, we had them 5-78 and that was the best I could do for the team."
Akhtar said his hamstring has responded well to a short break and treatment since the Boxing Day Test and he will be back to full fitness today.
In a cricket world that is fast losing characters and genuine excitement machines, Akhtar is one player who gets the fans' blood pumping as he strives to maintain his status as the fastest bowler in history.
Despite calls for him to shorten his trademark long run-up, Akhtar won't hear of it. He does what he feels comfortable doing.
He concedes that he feels a responsibility to get people interested in watching cricket. He says that cause isn't helped by rules and regulations he regards as inflexible.
"I just don't understand some of the rules of the ICC in that you can't do this and that on the field," Akhtar said.
"Why make cricket boring? It's just ridiculous and the ICC should have more flexible laws.
"The ICC laws are way too strict - pathetically strict. You can still do things in a nice way that doesn't make things boring.
"I understand there are kids watching and we have to be role models. But if you are not using [bad] language - which I don't - why can't you take the mickey out of people with some finger-pointing or something like that?
"The people love it and they want to see more than you bowling quickly. They want to see two warriors getting stuck into each other, but in a nice way.
"My job is to send a batsman off the ground and their job is to stay on the ground.
"You run in 40 yards and the blood is rushing and then someone attempts to hit you for four. As a bowler, what are you going to want to do to them?"
While taking his bike for a spin down at Circular Quay last night, it was clear Akhtar's philosophy on how cricket should be played was a hit with fans.
Young and old stopped to wish him well, while others stood back to just stare at him and his flashy red machine, which came complete with accessories from Monza Imports.
The bike not only epitomises how Akhtar plays his cricket, it epitomises how he lives his life.
Full speed and on the edge.
"I do like to do things a little bit crazy," he said.
"I like to ride bikes and drive fast cars. I like skydiving and bungee jumping and I'm not scared to do anything anywhere.
"The fast bowling thing, that was in me before I got a chance to do all of these other things.
"But I definitely live my life dangerously - very dangerously.
"I like riding bikes at 260km/h."
At home, in Rawalpindi, Akhtar owns a black Honda Fireblade. But because of his popularity, he can't ride it on the streets until 1am.
"It's not easy," he said when asked if he could enjoy riding his machines at home.
But still easier to take than his integrity as a fast bowler being questioned.
The Sunday Telegraph
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I'm not going to argue with you, but what you're saying is that men are blessed with more cricketing ability than women and that, simply, is a ridiculous implication.benchmark00 said: