**Official** Pakistan in Australia Thread

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

unfortunately cricket involves more than skill and ability it involves speed, reactions, courage and most importantly physical strength. It's proven that women aren't as strong and fast as men... they couldn't bowl over after over at 150 km/hr, couldn't hit the boundary ropes consistently enough...

Therefore cricket is quite obviously a game more conjousive to males

You are very much mistaken if you think that men have more speed, courage and quicker reaction time simply because they are men, because that in itself is ridiculous. Physical strength is an argument, but that too can be rebutted, as many women can get themselves into a position of strength equal to that of men.

The women may not play the same style of game as the men, but that doesn't mean that the men would beat the woment automatically. They still have to adjust to that style of play. Being able to hit the ball harder and bowl the ball faster does not make you a superior cricketer. Look at Afridi/Powell and Brett Lee.

 

[BoyBrumby]

Watson in for Lehmann & MacGill for Kasper.

I know the SCG takes a bit of turn, but jeez that's tough on Kasper, isn't it? He's been pretty ruddy magnificent of late.

 

[Unattainableguy]

I'm not going to argue with you, but what you're saying is that men are blessed with more cricketing ability than women and that, simply, is a ridiculous implication.

It simply would be foolish to argue with YOU over this. In generally, men are much stronger than women and are gifted things like power and ability to run faster than women. It's not just cricket in which women are weaker than men, but in any other sport I can think of.

 

[Unattainableguy]

None taken, coz it doesn't make sense anyway

I think it does if you take it as a joke

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

It simply would be foolish to argue with YOU over this. In generally, men are much stronger than women and are gifted things like power and ability to run faster than women. It's not just cricket in which women are weaker than men, but in any other sport I can think of.

Didn't know I warranted capital letters, but thanks anyway. I feel special now.

It's 'in general' by the way and I've never really claimed otherwise, but like you say 'in general(ly )' which backs my point. You can't make a sweeping statement such as that.

Your last point shows that you don't have the finest grasp of sport, if you think that men are superior in every single one of them.

 

[Unattainableguy]

Didn't know I warranted capital letters, but thanks anyway. I feel special now.

My purpose to use capital letters there was to emphasize that it's just you I would not argue with over this; idea of using italics. And I don't think that meant to make you special, but on the other hand, it was the opposite of what you thought( didn't want to argue with you over this)

It's 'in general' by the way and I've never really claimed otherwise, but like you say 'in general(ly )' which backs my point. You can't make a sweeping statement such as that.

Okay, I'm gonna defend myself against that. I started the sentence with "Generally" and then came back and added the preposition "in" front of it and removed "G" but forgot to erase the "ly" part lol ( Sorry, grammar is essential here in schools)

Your last point shows that you don't have the finest grasp of sport, if you think that men are superior in every single one of them.

I can't picture both the men and women playing a sport against each other and women turning out to be the winners. Maybe you can come up with a sport in which they might since you have the finest grasp of sports( it's awkward to say sport)...But the fact remains that women are the weaker *** in sports( other than table tennis and sports like that maybe lol)

 

[Unattainableguy]

But it's not that women don't have talent, but only of such standard where they can only compete and win against other members of their ***.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

One example that comes to mind is tennis. I believe there are a few female tennis players who can take out their male counterparts. Gymnastics too.

 

[marc71178]

Yes he will.. he has been named in the 11 with MacGill.. Kaspa is 12th man.

Must say I'm quite surprised by that - see that Gilchrist is down to bat 6 according to Cricinfo.

 

[marc71178]

I hope they lose.

I don't get if they wanna spawn young players (e.g. with Watson) why then are they playing MacGill??

Watson is only playing because MacGill is.

 

[marc71178]

it does matter, how do u think mcgrath would feel about the prospect of batting at 10? he'd prolly not get much sleep tonight!

Why?

It's not as if he's likely to have to bat on Day 1!

 

[Unattainableguy]

One example that comes to mind is tennis. I believe there are a few female tennis players who can take out their male counterparts. Gymnastics too.

lol, atleast, cricket is not there..That tells me you do admit that men can outplay women in cricket. Venus Williams can trouble most women with her serve around 120-125 mph( holds the record at 125mph) But imagine if Andy Roddick was to play against a woman and served as fast as he can around 150 mph........... I don't see her being able to hit the ball back to him
Would you not find people starting to hate women tennis if the worst ranked player( men) defeated Serena Williams???

 

[marc71178]

I think that Lehmann's inclusion was based completely upon his performance rather than the conditions, as Ricky Ponting had stated. If Kasper is replaced for a spinner because the pitch is supposed to help spinner's, why would the selectors take out Lehmann, a fairly decent spinner, for a seamer?

For balance - if Lehmann were missing out for performance reasons then it'd be someone like Katich to come in.

 

[Unattainableguy]

For balance - if Lehmann were missing out for performance reasons then it'd be someone like Katich to come in.

For balance? ....If it weren't for performance reasons, then they would be playing him and not any other batsman who can't bowl( depends who they pick). Having Lehman on their side will atleast provide them with another spinner

 

[JASON]

I just hope that dropping Lehman does not mean the end of his Test career, atleast I hope he gets a chance in the NZ series coming up.

But he will have to rely on others failure to return back to the Test fold or even by making big scores in the VB series.

Kaspar will definitely get selected for the NZ series .

 

[marc71178]

Yes, for balance.

They can't play 12 players, so one of the seamers misses out to accomodate MacGill.

Then they're down to 2 seam bowling options, so they have to look at the best way of getting a 3rd one in, and that is with an all-rounder.

Of course, you might have suggested dropping Gilchrist for Watson (or even retaining Kaspa) and giving the gloves to Langer!

 

[Pratters]

One example that comes to mind is tennis. I believe there are a few female tennis players who can take out their male counterparts. Gymnastics too.

No women tennis players would lose very badly to their male counter parts as proved when Venus/Serena Williams played a guy around world number 100 and lost if I am not wrong.

And the match in which Billy Jean King won the battle of the ***es, the other player was way past his prime age.

 

[marc71178]

But he will have to rely on others failure to return back to the Test fold or even by making big scores in the VB series.

No he won't because he's still in the top 4 middle order batsmen.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

lol, atleast, cricket is not there..That tells me you do admit that men can outplay women in cricket. Venus Williams can trouble most women with her serve around 120-125 mph( holds the record at 125mph) But imagine if Andy Roddick was to play against a woman and served as fast as he can around 150 mph........... I don't see her being able to hit the ball back to him
Would you not find people starting to hate women tennis if the worst ranked player( men) defeated Serena Williams???

The worst ranked male tennis player wouldn't stand a chance against Serena Williams, even as she currently is. Power isn't everything. If it were, Philippoussis would win almost every match.

 

[Pratters]

Happy Watson gets his chance. Sad though for Kasporwicz who had to be dropped for nature of the wicket.