*Official* NZ Domestic Season

[Natman20]

It's not a realistic option if you ask me. Vettori is doing the job for NZ in the lower order, i'd keep him there.

Is he really? I remember in about the last 10 or so matches he probably only got over 10 once or twice. I think he would be more suited at the beginning of an innings scoring singles and keeping the score moving along sort of Marshallesque.

 

[marc71178]

Daniel Vettori. hmmm. What is his average so far this season? The selectors would have to seriously look at him opening for NZ. He has proven he can do it at first-class level many times now but can he do it at international level?

But what exactly would that add to the side?

It would only bring in another batsman at 7 or 8.

 

[cric_manic]

Daniel Vettori. hmmm. What is his average so far this season? The selectors would have to seriously look at him opening for NZ. He has proven he can do it at first-class level many times now but can he do it at international level?

I hope your talking about test cricket because our ODI openers are fine

 

[lord_of_darkness]

Vettori is better off in the lower middle order..

 

[Sir Redman]

Selecting Vettori as an opener would be a big backward step, especially with the likes of How coming through.

 

[Tim]

How has pretty much done all that was asked of him after the Sri Lankan series. He's gone back & scored 4 half-centuries and set up wins for C.D. It would be wrong to shelve him for Vettori.

 

[Blaze]

I am astonished that Vettori manages to still score runs at domestic level.

He lives off width and shouldn't be able to score runs in one day cricket of any form consistantly.

Come around the wicket to him and cramp him for room and he is unable to score runs.

I would suggest that either first class bowlers are not very smart or that they are simply unable to execute that plan due to lack of control.

 

[Natman20]

Selecting Vettori as an opener would be a big backward step, especially with the likes of How coming through.

I guess so but if we ever have issues he will be there as a back-up plan. It's tough selecting openers for NZ now because their are quite a few that can do it. Cumming, Papps, Flemming, Astle, Vincent, How, J Marshall (not really) and of course if there are massive problems Mcullum and Vettori. Middle order batsman are quite good as well with the likes of Sinclair, Styris, Marshall, Fulton, Oram, Mcullum and the 2 performing at 1st class Taylor and Ryder. For Bowlers there are the likes of Bond, Vettori, Franklin, Mills, Martin, Patel and others that I think could do well in NZ squad are Mason (mainly tests), Gillespie, B Martin and N Mcullum and maybe Hamilton. Of course Tuffey and Butler are in my bowlers list once they recover. Adams could fit into a middle order all-rounder position as well. So to me their are quite a few players that I think can play for NZ and I think that there is a little bit of depth at the moment as well, mainly in the batting department. I don't know what inspired me to type this.

 

[Darrin]

I like How. He seems to able to play very straight at the ball whilst not losing anything in shot that he plays. His innings that he played, which sky covered was an example of this.
To me he's ahead of papps at the moment.

 

[Sportsgirl]

I like the look of How also, I believe he is a long term prospect for NZ, the same with Peter Fulton. I think Ross Taylor would make a good supersub for NZ. I wouldn't mind seeing him selected as the supersub for the upcoming West Indies series.

 

[James]

I like the look of How also, I believe he is a long term prospect for NZ, the same with Peter Fulton. I think Ross Taylor would make a good supersub for NZ. I wouldn't mind seeing him selected as the supersub for the upcoming West Indies series.

and what happens if we bat first?

I would perosnally go for someone like Andre Adams or Chris Harris as the super-sub.

 

[Natman20]

and what happens if we bat first?

I would perosnally go for someone like Andre Adams or Chris Harris as the super-sub.

Agreed. I do not see the point in choosing a specialist batsman or bowler and I think Sri Lanka have had those problems recently. Unless Bandara can bat can he?

 

[Tim]

The good thing about How was that he finally cracked international level and when he went back to domestic cricket he actually looked better for it. How many times do you see players get selected for international cricket but then return to domestic cricket and appear as though they had learned nothing.

How has almost doubled his number of career half-centuries in the last month.
Looking at him on tv and through stats, he seems to have the ability to play anchor or be the aggressor so it's good to see he can play both roles.

We're starting to see some of the benefits that were talked about back in 1998 when the Academy first began. It's taken around 5 years but the Academy is starting to output some much better players than we've seen in NZ for a long time.

 

[James]

Agreed. I do not see the point in choosing a specialist batsman or bowler and I think Sri Lanka have had those problems recently. Unless Bandara can bat can he?

Yes exactly, the best way to maximize the Super Subis to obviously pick an all-rounder.

John Bracewell mentioned a few months ago that he sees Chris Harris being crucial on the low and slow West Indian pitches we're set to play on. Perhaps the upcoming West Indies series here would be a good series to bring him back for? After all, he has done pretty well for Canterbury this season hasn't he.

 

[Tim]

But Bracewell and Fleming believe that picking a specialist as Super-sub is the better way to go. Well at least that's what they thought back during the Zimbabwe tour.

Harris still seems to be up to it at domestic level but he needs to be back in the Black Caps soon to give himself another test or else he's going to be under-done for the World Cup.

 

[Natman20]

From scorecards it looks as if he has done all right without being spectacular though. I would love to see Harris in the Squad again maybe to replace Cairns

 

[Sportsgirl]

The academy has also stuffed up some international players by changing their technique.

 

[James]

But Bracewell and Fleming believe that picking a specialist as Super-sub is the better way to go. Well at least that's what they thought back during the Zimbabwe tour.

Why do you think that is?

 

[Autobahn]

Yes exactly, the best way to maximize the Super Subis to obviously pick an all-rounder.

John Bracewell mentioned a few months ago that he sees Chris Harris being crucial on the low and slow West Indian pitches we're set to play on. Perhaps the upcoming West Indies series here would be a good series to bring him back for? After all, he has done pretty well for Canterbury this season hasn't he.

Like '92-style with a dibbly-dobbly attack led by harris

Might just have a spinner opening the attack again

 

[Tim]

I can't remember their exact reasoning but if you look at the Zimbabwe tour, they picked a specialist bowler or batsman as SS and even against Aus & S.L it was a specialist player.