Pope was the definition of luck that innings though. Idiotic to think that's always going to work when Pope proceeded to vanish afterwards.
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*Official* New Zealand tour of India 2024
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the big bambino
International Captain
Hilarious that a guy who took all ten can have his papers marked “must do better”.
centurymaker
Cricketer Of The Year
Can't believe how shallow you are.
the big bambino
International Captain
I'm not the one who believes a bowler with 70 wickets in 18 tests plus a 10fer is a shocking spin option. Sit down already you toilet.
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Starfighter
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Blaming the one guy who took all the wickets seems silly. What about the other bowlers?
Daemon
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Not their fault one guy was selfish and took everything for himself
The issue was (in my eyes) that this conservative leadership group weren't prepared to back Patel on all surfaces. We couldn't find a guy who could do the dual role when required of being parsimonious but also having the potential of bowling us to 4th innings victories, we found one, then we didn't have the stones to stick with him.
In fact, how insipid they were was reflected in the fact he bowled two overs at a rampant Ben Stokes at Lord's, was a whisker away from bowling him but went for 22 off two overs, and hasn't played a non subcontinental Test in the 27 months since then.
In fact, how insipid they were was reflected in the fact he bowled two overs at a rampant Ben Stokes at Lord's, was a whisker away from bowling him but went for 22 off two overs, and hasn't played a non subcontinental Test in the 27 months since then.
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Apex Predator
State Vice-Captain
In Mumbai red soil Turner. I remember Indians had a shocking batting line up against spin back then. Finished Pujara Rahane Saha Kohli's struggle vs left arm spin are well documented. India didn't even have a left hander.
Only 1 good player of spin in Mayank &, he basically won the test on his own.
Apex Predator
State Vice-Captain
Latham also saying attacking cricket is the only way that works in India.
Except the Southee part I agree with him.
www.espncricinfo.com
Except the Southee part I agree with him.
'Take it to them' - How Latham wants New Zealand to tackle India
The new Test captain has backed Tim Southee to rediscover his wicket-taking form
www.espncricinfo.com
the big bambino
International Captain
Well yes
Oh please. Indians bad players of spin now. Conveniently just for that match. You basically had the same batting line up the whole series - even when Ajaz struggled in the first 2 matches. If anything the last test was India's best side of the series.
centurymaker
Cricketer Of The Year
Stfu. In the 1st Test in Perth, if it is a green seamer and India get bowled out for 60 and 150.
Meanwhile Aus get 350, but Bumrah takes all 10/120 after bowling 48 long overs, is that really a world class performance? if it takes him and India forever to dismiss Australia on that pitch.
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centurymaker
Cricketer Of The Year
Ajaz Patel bowled 48 overs himself to take his 10 wickets. India's innings lasted 110 overs.
For comparison, NZ's first innings only lasted 26 overs. It was that kind of pitch. Just because his fellow bowlers were absolutely terrible doesn't mean Ajaz Patel was world class. He was good. He got the wickets but after bowling for a long time. Someone has to end up with the wickets eventually if all the others are crap.
For comparison, NZ's first innings only lasted 26 overs. It was that kind of pitch. Just because his fellow bowlers were absolutely terrible doesn't mean Ajaz Patel was world class. He was good. He got the wickets but after bowling for a long time. Someone has to end up with the wickets eventually if all the others are crap.
the big bambino
International Captain
Of course it would be. Daaah.
I see in a subsequent post you've upgraded Ajaz from shocking to good because you can't sustain your own argument against him. He is a good bowler and it was a world class performance. As long as NZ have him they have a slow bowling option.
RossTaylorsBox
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Yeah, it is.
centurymaker
Cricketer Of The Year
No it's not. India is getting bowled out 60 and 150. Pitch is like the one from cape town test earlier this year and Bumrah and his mates have conceded 350.
A bag of wickets doesn't automatically mean great performance if your performance relative to opposition and match situation is way off.
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
Ajaz is a good spinner who is capable of world class spells when conditions favor his style of bowling. And we have lollapsed to far worse spinners. He is definitely a threat. Its not his fault his side sucks more batting against spin.
the big bambino
International Captain
Supporting your country or team is fine. Except when it gets to jingoism. I'm guessing that is the reason. When fans have to explain away a great performance against their team because it somehow offends them.
govinda indian fan
First Class Debutant
Ajaz is a good spinner and yes he picked 10 wicket haul vs us shouldn't underestimate him