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***Official*** New Zealand in the West Indies 2014
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Athlai
Not Terrible
Yeah all of a sudden NZ are in a position where if we bat 2 sessions we may win, if we bat 3 we'll either win or draw the series.
Pretty gun way for the match to go, I'd say WI won the first (and second) day and we won the third but neither were as one sided as the previous Tests.
Pretty gun way for the match to go, I'd say WI won the first (and second) day and we won the third but neither were as one sided as the previous Tests.
WindieWeathers
International Regular
In really don't know how to feel right now. We know the track is still decent for batting but runs create pressure regardless of the pitch. it's effectively 99/3 right now and the first session is gonna be vital tomorrow. If we manage to nick 2/15 in Kemar's first spell then things are gonna get interesting...but if NZ see off the opening spell..the way Benn and Shilly were bowling didn't inspire confidence at all...i guess we'll have to wait and see. Right now i'd take a 260 chase at most...we simply cannot afford to let it go too far above that if we have intentions of winning this game.
The Mccullum decision really had me shaking my head but it's no surprise it didn't go our way...that's just the way it is these days. Holder showed a glimpse of what people have been raving about...and at only 22 he's still very raw but when he gets used to this level i see him doing special things in this game. Kemar was Kemar and he's kept us in this game tbh because Jerome just hasn't turned up yet (his record at this ground has never been great tbf). No doubt we're gonna have to fight hard tomorrow...if we are chasing 250 imo the key will be Brathwaite..if he digs in he'll give the others confidence and that's how we can build the innings...he goes early then things could go downhill fast.
If things go against us the people who decided to ban Narine and also play just five batsmen in this game should be held accountable. Why leak info after the first test saying Narine was gonna play the third test only to make a u turn just because we won the second test? it's pathetic and just shows how calculated that are. And in closing if we had Blackwood in the side i think NZ could very well have been around 60 to 90 behind which would look great for us right now...but hey them idiots are clearly "smarter" then the rest of us
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The Mccullum decision really had me shaking my head but it's no surprise it didn't go our way...that's just the way it is these days. Holder showed a glimpse of what people have been raving about...and at only 22 he's still very raw but when he gets used to this level i see him doing special things in this game. Kemar was Kemar and he's kept us in this game tbh because Jerome just hasn't turned up yet (his record at this ground has never been great tbf). No doubt we're gonna have to fight hard tomorrow...if we are chasing 250 imo the key will be Brathwaite..if he digs in he'll give the others confidence and that's how we can build the innings...he goes early then things could go downhill fast.
If things go against us the people who decided to ban Narine and also play just five batsmen in this game should be held accountable. Why leak info after the first test saying Narine was gonna play the third test only to make a u turn just because we won the second test? it's pathetic and just shows how calculated that are. And in closing if we had Blackwood in the side i think NZ could very well have been around 60 to 90 behind which would look great for us right now...but hey them idiots are clearly "smarter" then the rest of us
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Prince EWS
Global Moderator
He was injured during the second Test.
WindieWeathers
International Regular
Was he playing a shot? i don't think so.
BackFootPunch
International 12th Man
Yeah wasn't even all that close really. If the umpire had given him out and he'd reviewed the decision would have been changed. No idea what WW is on about here.
wellAlbidarned
International Coach
Compared to shiv he definitely was
Howsie
International Captain
Forward defense isn't a shot anymore?
WindieWeathers
International Regular
No doubt if it was Shiv he'd be back in the hutch...but hey like i said i wasn't surprise we didn't get that decision.
hendrix
Hall of Fame Member
Nah I'm with WWs on this one.
I hate seeing the bat-behind-the-pad as a shot. Shiv Chanderpaul got away with an LBW shout because of it in the first test. Ponting used to always do the same thing. No intention to actually hit the ball.
BackFootPunch
International 12th Man
Seriously? The reason the ball hit the pad is because it came back in more than McCullum expected, right?
Surely, then, it's logical that if he miscalculated where the ball would end up both his bat and pad will be down the wrong line. Had the ball been where he expected then the bat would have come through and hit it. He was new to the crease and ****ed up when trying to play the ball, simple as. Good piece of bowling to a new batsman but hit him just outside the line so not out. Drawing a really long bow to say McCullum had no intention whatsoever to hit that.
hendrix
Hall of Fame Member
sure, but rather than making the adjustment (i.e. get the pad out of the way so that you can hit it with the bat) he continued to play down the same line and used his pad. The reason he did that is because getting the pad out of the way risks being bowled if you can't get the bat there fast enough.
So yeah, I'm not seeing an intention to hit the ball once he realised he was beaten by the inward movement.
It's something lots of batsmen do. Ponting was notorious for it. I don't like it because I don't see it as being a genuine attempt to hit the ball once you've been beaten by movement.
WindieWeathers
International Regular
And this is a response from an "adult"?!!
..I won't change my views for the likes of YOU...either accept it or ignore my posts..it's that simple...i'm tired of dealing with your childish outbursts now.
WindieWeathers
International Regular
Big respect from me hendrix...you could easily have fallen in line with the others but you formed your own opinion decided to be honest...well done mate....
BackFootPunch
International 12th Man
I can see where you're coming from, but I think there's a fundamental difference between intending to leave the ball alone completely (committing to not playing a shot at all) and getting beaten so doing whatever you possibly can to keep the ball out. In the first situation, from the moment you see it out of the hand, you never plan to play the ball with bat. In the second you're always intending to get something on it but have to scramble once you realise you've misread it.
I think you're giving too much credit to a batsman if you think he can adjust and decide to keep the bat behind pad as easily as you're making out, especially against a quick bowler.
