I don't think the NZ players are ruing this but us NZ fans are!
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**Official** New Zealand in Australia 2015
- Thread starter Hurricane
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wellAlbidarned
International Coach
In defense absolutely. In attack (like taylor was) there's an element of commitment to the shot so following those principles is difficult.
ABC radio commentators are ruing this too. Every co-commentator since tea has started their stint with comments about how unfortunate the NZers are. Think they would have preferred their team to win without a leg up from the umpire.
jcas0167
International Regular
He reminds me a bit of Nathan Astle, who opened in ODIs and and batted at 5 in tests. Good striker, but too vulnerable to the new ball in tests. I don't know if he plays spin well enough to be a long term contentder for no 5 though when McCullum retires.
wellAlbidarned
International Coach
Guptill isn't going to be a no 5 because it's a saturated market. We produce no 5s like nobody's business. He's an opener because we need ****ing openers.
jcas0167
International Regular
That's been the case through the series.
Will Young is being groomed for #5. Nicholls an outside chance, technique not as orthodox but keeps scoring runs.
Better question is who should be Latham's partner over the next 2-3 seasons?
Furball
Evil Scotsman
You kind of need Mitchell Marsh for his bowling though, particularly when your quicks are just dropping like flies at the minute. You'd be rooked this innings without him.
I agree that he needs the rest of the season in Shield cricket to work on his batting so he's more of an allround package. I'd definitely be dropping him if Henriques is in decent form domestically (I have no idea if this is the case or not)
Has been intriguing cricket today. Enjoyed watching Bracewell and Hazlewood, got the reward for bowling a little fuller and straighter than the others. Disappointed in BMac's captaincy, over-used the spinners, under-used Bracewell, gave Starc a chance to tee off against spin. Disappointed in the openers, both got a start, but needed to dig in to take the energy out of Siddle and Hazlewood and protect middle order strokemakers from the evening swing.
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cnerd123
likes this
I've loved watching this. The D/N atmosphere with all the crowds in, the pink ball swinging under lights...fantastic.
Imagine a 4th innings runchase entering the final 5th day session under lights. That would be amazing. Like an ODI runchase under lights, but a Test. I can't wait for it.
Brilliant stuff.
Imagine a 4th innings runchase entering the final 5th day session under lights. That would be amazing. Like an ODI runchase under lights, but a Test. I can't wait for it.
Brilliant stuff.
Hurricane
Hall of Fame Member
Brendon's forward defence is weak.
You do not look to cover a potential leg cutter with your forward defence by aiming to hit the ball with the intersection point of your bat and pad.
Play the line of the ball with your bat. More often than not it is an off cutter rather than a leg cutter. When it cuts in it should hit the inside edge of your bat and go to fine leg. When it does leg cut you will probably miss it. Taylor is far better at this.
Taylor out lbw being over ambitious. He needed to block that. His wicket may be the end of our chances unless this current pairing can kick on. Boy I hope Santner is a quick learner.
I hope Australia's dropped catches come back to hurt them, but I am not hopeful.
You do not look to cover a potential leg cutter with your forward defence by aiming to hit the ball with the intersection point of your bat and pad.
Play the line of the ball with your bat. More often than not it is an off cutter rather than a leg cutter. When it cuts in it should hit the inside edge of your bat and go to fine leg. When it does leg cut you will probably miss it. Taylor is far better at this.
Taylor out lbw being over ambitious. He needed to block that. His wicket may be the end of our chances unless this current pairing can kick on. Boy I hope Santner is a quick learner.
I hope Australia's dropped catches come back to hurt them, but I am not hopeful.
Moss
International Captain
Quite possibly one of the most bizarre days of test cricket I've seen/followed (watched only the first and third sessions).
NZ seamers (Bracewell in particular) doing the business, Smith and Neville showing how to bat on that surface, BMac's gambles with spin first coming off gloriously and then going hilariously wrong, the review and NZ losing it after that, Hazlewood the sleeping giant wakes up, those drops from Smith, Mitch Marsh making up for Starc's absence despite bowling like a drain..
Takeaways: both teams' batting weaknesses were shown up, Smith wholly in charge of his technique, Hazlewood a test star in the making, BMac starting to fall for the hype around his captaincy, and Latham probably needs some lessons in patience from Mark Richardson or even Tim McIntosh.
NZ seamers (Bracewell in particular) doing the business, Smith and Neville showing how to bat on that surface, BMac's gambles with spin first coming off gloriously and then going hilariously wrong, the review and NZ losing it after that, Hazlewood the sleeping giant wakes up, those drops from Smith, Mitch Marsh making up for Starc's absence despite bowling like a drain..
Takeaways: both teams' batting weaknesses were shown up, Smith wholly in charge of his technique, Hazlewood a test star in the making, BMac starting to fall for the hype around his captaincy, and Latham probably needs some lessons in patience from Mark Richardson or even Tim McIntosh.
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Hurricane
Hall of Fame Member
He has had a go at 5, and he farted around out there and batted slowly and failed - aside from one inning where he bullied Bangers.
If he can't make a go of opening then it is time to give up on him as a test match project.
I have no idea why he didn't batten down the hatches and just let them bowl maidens to him, there are days left in this test match.
indiaholic
International Captain
D/N tests are here to stay. Only minor peeve is that I seem to lose sight of the ball halfway down the pitch but I guess that is just a matter of getting used to the new colour.