***Official*** NatWest Series/Challenge

[vic_orthdox]

I've figured out why Vaughan has such a low ODI average...

Suffers from withdrawal symptoms when not playing Australia. He is a marvel. That punch through the covers was exquisite.

 

[andyc]

Interesting that people say that Hogg isn't a batsmen but he averages 24 which is only slightly less then Solanki and Jones 26.

not far off vaughan, either!

wow, 14 dot balls, a good comeback there for australia

 

[Barney Rubble]

Interesting that people say that Hogg isn't a batsmen but he averages 24 which is only slightly less then Solanki and Jones 26.

Thing is, Hogg has usually been batting 7 or below, so I'd bet Hogg has a much higher percentage of not-outs than Strauss or Solanki - who both prefer to open.

 

[Demolition Man]

Im suprised KP didn't come in because as ive been told 187 times over the last few day, "you just can't keep him out of the game" *cringe*

 

[chaminda_00]

Thing is, Hogg has usually been batting 7 or below, so I'd bet Hogg has a much higher percentage of not-outs than Strauss or Solanki - who both prefer to open.

Yeah 50% not outs, but anyone that is capable of keeping his average above 20 and score fifty is a batsmen in ODIs

 

[Adamc]

Interesting that people say that Hogg isn't a batsmen but he averages 24 which is only slightly less then Solanki and Jones 26.

Massively boosted by 19 not-outs out of 39 innings. He's decent I guess, but Solanki and Jones are certainly much better IMO.

 

[Demolition Man]

Ill just say right know, im not a big fan of Kasper, IMHO he has taken alot of wickets in the past 12 months or so but the actual quality of those dismissials has been nowhere near as high as the other bowlers

 

[andyc]

uh oh watson on this could get ugly

 

[vic_orthdox]

Hmm, Mr. Military Medium himself is on. It'd almost be better if he were bowling about 70mph on this pitch, it does seem to be getting a little slow. His pace will probably come on to the bat pretty nicely.

 

[Barney Rubble]

Yeah 50% not outs, but anyone that is capable of keeping his average above 20 and score fifty is a batsmen in ODIs

I think we'll have to agree to disagree on that one. Our definitions of a batsman seem to be different. I'd define someone like Hogg as a bowler who can bat - you wouldn't pick him if he couldn't bowl, therefore by my definition, he's not a batsman.

 

[Neil Pickup]

The thing that Kasper really has going for him in my book is the off-cutter - he used it to great effect in the morning sessions I saw against NZ, causing the Kiwi lefthanders in Fleming and Sinclair serious issues chasing ones that go away.

With England having several lefties in the lineup, he's likely to have a big say in their dismissals for me.

 

[aussie]

I have just come back from home and things look pretty even

 

[chaminda_00]

Hmm, Mr. Military Medium himself is on. It'd almost be better if he were bowling about 70mph on this pitch, it does seem to be getting a little slow. His pace will probably come on to the bat pretty nicely.

Medium Pace, he probably the fastest bowler in the side, 85 mph ATM

 

[Demolition Man]

The thing that Kasper really has going for him in my book is the off-cutter - he used it to great effect in the morning sessions I saw against NZ, causing the Kiwi lefthanders in Fleming and Sinclair serious issues chasing ones that go away.

With England having several lefties in the lineup, he's likely to have a big say in their dismissals for me.

Exactly he has that angle across the lefties, with his slider type sling-shots.

 

[chaminda_00]

I think we'll have to agree to disagree on that one. Our definitions of a batsman seem to be different. I'd define someone like Hogg as a bowler who can bat - you wouldn't pick him if he couldn't bowl, therefore by my definition, he's not a batsman.

Yeah i agree with you.

One question would you pick Solanki if he wasn't a very good fielder or Jones if he didn't keep.

 

[vic_orthdox]

I'd be interested to see whether Gillespie is fully fit. So far he hasn't thrown the ball in with any sort of pace at all, using the relay just then, and other times sending it in on a couple of bounces, as well as bowling well below his usual pace.

This pair looking good. A lot riding on this partnership - if we don't see number 5 in by the 20th over, it'll make things very difficult for the Aussies.

 

[Demolition Man]

I'd be interested to see whether Gillespie is fully fit. So far he hasn't thrown the ball in with any sort of pace at all, using the relay just then, and other times sending it in on a couple of bounces, as well as bowling well below his usual pace.

This pair looking good. A lot riding on this partnership - if we don't see number 5 in by the 20th over, it'll make things very difficult for the Aussies.

might be recovering from watsons birthday still........

 

[BoyBrumby]

Good pace from Watson there in his first over, looks to have a decent slower ball too.

 

[Barney Rubble]

Yeah i agree with you.

One question would you pick Solanki if he wasn't a very good fielder or Jones if he didn't keep.

No and no. Personally, I wouldn't pick Solanki at all, and I would pick Matt Prior ahead of Jones. But they're both better batsmen than Brad Hogg.

 

[vic_orthdox]

Medium Pace, he probably the fastest bowler in the side, 85 mph ATM

The speed gun may not lie, but it doesn't tell the whole story.

Watson may well be clocked at that speed, but you'll rarely see him being played in any more hurried a manner than McGrath or Gillespie, especially the way that he has such a skiddy action.

And as I talk, up comes Gilchrist to the stumps.