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**Official** India v Pakistan

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
Mecnun said:
I wasnt criticising Sachin SJS. He played extremely well. interesting stat though hence I posted it!!
Oh I know but there are too many such statistics branded around without any one checking them.

Of Sachins 38 centuries, 28 have been scored in winning causes.

Of his total 107 fifty plus innings, as many as 68 have been played towards winning causes.

His batting average in matches won by India is 58.3.


This is just to counter the propaganda. If you ask me, his innings, the ten 100's for example including today's and the one in Multan, dont become smaller by comparison just because the matches were lost.
 

Gotchya

State Vice-Captain
Heartening win for Pakistan Its Amazing what this team has achieved on this tour, inspite of all the odds against them. Those who saw Pakistan bowl today, would agree that they looked anything but winners.

Big moment for the Big man.

PS. The pitches are no surprise.....what happened to the lights?? Why arent these matches being played when its easier on the players....
 

Gotchya

State Vice-Captain
As an afterthought, Pakistan almost always manage to pull off a huge effort against India, when it matters Most ... also Ahmedabad was supposed to be a pressure venue.
 

Gotchya

State Vice-Captain
How will he manage to make a comeback is beyond me. Especially when Dravid doesnt even need to be special to make the team miss Ganguly
 

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
Adamc said:
OK, looks like the match referee has made the Indian selectors' job a lot easier: Ganguly banned for six matches
Quite a hefty punishment, though not the first time he's been booked for this offence.
FANTASTIC NEWS !!

I honestly believe that now India has some chance of winning this series.

Thank you ref. :)
 

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
Arjun said:
Why Kumble? No doubt he's a more accomplished strike bowler than any other contender, but he's had a horrific 2004 ODI season- he averaged over 64. Besides, question marks may be raised over the fielding of Sehwag, Zaheer and Nehra, while Kumble's fielding is a thumbs-down!

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Now you know why !!

Kumble has been included in the team for the last two games. At least Dravid agrees with me :p
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
wahindiawah said:
I feel that a wkt should have something for bowlers too, these pitches are tailor made for batsmen and pacers really can do very little on such pitches.
I notice this wasn't the complaint when India were batting...
 

thehellraiser

School Boy/Girl Captain
Tremendous win for Pakistan....an absolutely brilliant effort. Inzi proves once again that when the its crunch time he almost certainly puts his hand up to be counted. Amazing victory.....well done
 

imranrabb

U19 Debutant
More steel, less flash

The Wisden Verdict by S Rajesh

April 12, 2005

The last time a one-day match was played at Motera, West Indies were exactly in the situation that India found themselves in today. They amassed what looked like a matchwinning score of 325, with one of their openers, Chris Gayle, smashing 140. Then, they watched helplessly as India chased down that target in a canter, with 14 balls to spare. Pakistan didn't quite win so easily, but in Inzamam-ul-Haq they had just the man for the occasion. It was a fabulous knock under pressure, and it ensured that the team which deserved to win did so, even if they contrived to make it much tougher than it should have been.

After the game at Jamshedpur, the first word which came to mind when describing Pakistan's batting effort was clinical. For the second time in consecutive matches, that adjective was an apt description of their performance with the willow for much of their innings today, though that discipline wasn't quite there when they bowled. Since Bob Woolmer has come on board, there has been a significant emphasis on strenghtening the basics – the fielding, the running between the wickets, the fitness. There have been lapses, but overall, this Pakistan outfit is much more solid, and far less flashy, than their predecessors.

On another swelteringly hot day, it would have been easy for Pakistan to avoid the singles and twos, and concentrate on the boundaries, especially after having spent three-and-a-half hours in the field. Instead, they ran as if that was the only way of scoring runs. Sample these stats – Shoaib Malik made a run-a-ball 65, and only 12 of those runs came in boundaries. And how many dot balls did he play? Only 16. Between overs 14 and 34, Pakistan scored 120 runs – that's exactly six an over, yet there were only four fours during that period. It was so efficient and without fuss, it was almost boring to watch. This approach might result in fewer spectacular fireworks from a side famous for it, but it will also fetch them more success.

For the Indians, though, this will be a tough loss to recover from. Sourav Ganguly made one early change from the script used in that game against West Indies in 2002 – he had chosen to field after winning the toss in that game – but no-one can blame Ganguly for his decision today: the team batting first has been winning in this series, and despite the excess moisture on the pitch which caused an hour's delay, the track looked a belter when play finally began. What Ganguly will find much tougher to justify is his promotion to No. 4 in the batting line-up after the outstanding start that the top three had given the team.

Ganguly might have opted for the move to prove a point about his batting, but all he managed was eat up 33 balls in scoring 18 runs in a match in which all batsmen scored at around a run a ball or more. With the innings already 32 overs old when Mahendra Singh Dhoni got out, logic would have suggested that Rahul Dravid, Yuvraj Singh and Mohammad Kaif be the chosen ones to play the next 16 overs, with Ganguly coming in only if absolutely required to. Ganguly's stay at the crease not only checked the momentum, it also meant Sachin Tendulkar was struggling for strike – he faced only 21 balls when Ganguly was at the crease.

It's important that Ganguly run into form in the long term, but what was more critical at that point was to do what would have given the team the best opportunity to win the match. Ganguly coming in at No. 4 certainly wasn't the answer.




The final result also put in the shade an outstanding batting effort by Tendulkar. Plenty has been written about his form, but unlike Ganguly, who seldom even looks like buying a run, Tendulkar has been middling the ball well, was consistent in the Tests, and had only failed a couple of times – a big score was round the corner, and it was hardly surprising that Pakistan felt the heat today.

From the first ball, which he clipped magnificently to square leg for four, Tendulkar's fluency was there for all to see – the feet were always in position, he hardly played and missed, and he never missed out on a loose ball. What stood out, though, was the manner in which he dismantled Danish Kaneria, negating his leg-stump line with a meaty reverse-sweep, and twinkle-toed footwork which allowed him to get inside the line and smash straight hits. Unlike many of his recent innings, he didn't hold back after reaching his fifty – his second half-century came in just 43 balls, and was probably indicative of the fact that he had read the pitch as one on which no total would be safe. He was proved right.

A final word about the crowd. It was an outstanding match, but most of the Pakistani moments – including the winning hit – were greeted with absolute silence, or at best stray claps. What grated the most was the loud chants of "Ganguly hai hai" when the teams were walking back after the match, at a time when Inzamam should have got a standing ovation for guiding his team as expertly as he did; instead, all he got was calls of "Aloo, aloo". The result might not be to the crowd's liking, but it sets up the series magnificently for the two final games at Kanpur and Delhi.

S Rajesh is assistant editor of Cricinfo.

What a disgrace the indian crowd is.The past games every four or six pakistan has hit,you can hear a pin dropping.Now this after inzamam plays a wonderful knock they boo him.
 

maxpower

U19 Cricketer
I can't believe sachin bowled the last over and inzi had hard time scoring 3 runs !!!! and I dont know why in the world the field was set for saving a boundary when on 1 run was needed. In contrast I have no hard time believing Pak chase 315 in 48 overs, coz thats just the way these two teams play. losing when its almost hard to do is what these 2 teams do best. 3-3 tie series enuff said.
 

maxpower

U19 Cricketer
imranrabb said:
I think pakistan should go on to win 4-2.I cant see india winning the series now but a draw is also possible
i would have said 4-2 pak too after this game, expect ganguly will not play last too so pak will have to play 11 ind players.
 

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