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***Official*** India in South Africa
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silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
Goughy said:
Err, anyone.*
Except the Indians.
Langeveldt
Soutie
Yeah he's gone from "Of course there's no quotas when Albie Morkel gets a game!" to "Poor mans Justin Kemp"Goughy said:
Perm
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Good innings there for Jacobus Rudolph to lift the Rest of South Africa up to 255. Pathan, Khan and Kumble all bowled well but Munaf Patel must have got smashed for a couple of overs because he bowled 3 maidens and still went at 7 an over.
Dravid, Kaif and Pathan were the only positives for India with the bat although Kaif played pretty slowly. By the looks of it the team was quite experimental so I wouldn't read too much into the result. Great bowling by Steyn, showeed alot of potential in the tests against New Zealand. What do the South African fans think of Johan van der Wath? A lesser version of Andrew Hall?
Dravid, Kaif and Pathan were the only positives for India with the bat although Kaif played pretty slowly. By the looks of it the team was quite experimental so I wouldn't read too much into the result. Great bowling by Steyn, showeed alot of potential in the tests against New Zealand. What do the South African fans think of Johan van der Wath? A lesser version of Andrew Hall?
Langeveldt
Soutie
nah, a better bowler than Andrew Hall, and a lesser batsman..
adharcric
International Coach
Raina and Mongia seriously crack me up. They were both given an opportunity to secure that final middle-order berth and they used those opportunities very well - both out for a duck. Raina will probably play in the first ODI for his fielding and because this is a do-or-die (for now) tour for him.
Sehwag, Tendulkar, Kaif, Dravid, Raina, Dhoni, Pathan, Kumble, Bhajji, Zaheer, Munaf/Sreesanth IMO
They should seriously consider sending Kaif and Raina up the order at 3 and 4.
Sehwag, Tendulkar, Kaif, Dravid, Raina, Dhoni, Pathan, Kumble, Bhajji, Zaheer, Munaf/Sreesanth IMO
They should seriously consider sending Kaif and Raina up the order at 3 and 4.
Goughy
Hall of Fame Member
As Rich said, he is different to Hall. Van der Wath is a bowler that can hit the ball hard lower down the order.Perm said:
In truth, his batting helps get him selected but he is primarily a bowler. Hall is whatever the selecters want him to be on any particular day. He certainly a far more accomplished bat than vdW and there isnt too much to choose between their bowling.
TT Boy
Hall of Fame Member
der Wath will be playing county cricket next season, be interesting to see how he gets on. Think his a pretty decent hitter of a cricket ball and he could improve with the bat but he is currently one of the worst players of spin I have seen. Bowling seems far too erratic as well though he has a tendency to bowl just one length as well, seen him bowl a few times and it was either bounces all day or attempting to smash the batsman feet with yorkers, needless to say he was not very successful with both methods.Goughy said:
shortpitched713
International Captain
They'll probably pick Mongia, he'll do pretty well, and the Indian selectors will forget about Raina for the next 3-5 years.adharcric said:
shortpitched713
International Captain
Wasim Jaffer and Parthiv Patel both beg to differ.
adharcric
International Coach
Jaffer wasn't a favorite of the management like Raina is. Besides, he's back now after continued domestic success.shortpitched713 said:
Patel hasn't been forgotten about - he just sucks. He finds a place in India A and gets opportunities in Challenger, Duleep and Deodhar matches regardless of how he performs.
I know what you're saying, but a) the selectors are improving in that regard b) do your research and find a solid example before talking
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vic_orthdox
Global Moderator
Bowled pretty well at the death at times in the VB Series last year, IIRC...
shortpitched713
International Captain
Jaffer was a pretty good example I think. Sure he's in the team now, but he could have been the solution to India's opening problem well before when he was selected most recently. And he had to get a mountain of domestic runs to get back in despite the fact that he'd already shown the technique and the temperament to be successful at the highest level. And the whole thing about Raina being a favorite of the management just doesn't wash with me. It doesn't take too many bad performances for the fickle management to write off a young talent like Raina.adharcric said:Jaffer wasn't a favorite of the management like Raina is. Besides, he's back now after continued domestic success.
Patel hasn't been forgotten about - he just sucks. He finds a place in India A and gets opportunities in Challenger, Duleep and Deodhar matches regardless of how he performs.
I know what you're saying, but a) the selectors are improving in that regard b) do your research and find a solid example before talking
Although I'll agree that the Indian selectors have got better with things like this, I still think that they lack any sort of viable long term plan, as evidenced by selections that are pretty random at times.