***Official*** India in Pakistan

[silentstriker]

Both suxs as far as spinners are concerned.The last good spinner that Pak had was Saqlain, now they don't even have a single decent specialist spinner in their 16 man squad

Though unlike Pakistan,England can be respected as they have world class pacers!Pakistan has just two match winners in Akhtar (who is not playing ) and Danish (who is pathetic in ODI).With those two out of OD team, the rest of the bowling attack is pretty much sub-average. Asif is decent, but Yasir,Gul, Razzak,Afridi,Malik are very ordinary fellows, and Rana Naveed is in horrible form and the probably the most over rated cricker ever.

Sub-Average?

OK, talking about sides at full strength (Akhtar + Kaneria included, Giles included):

Pakistan's attack is better than: India, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, New Zealand, West Indies and South Africa.

You have an odd definition of sub-average.

If you exclude those who are hurt (Akhtar & Giles):

Pakistan attack is still better than India, Bangladesh, West Indies, New Zealand

 

[Jono]

Just best not to listen to him. It seems Pakistan suck even if they win every match. He never posts after a loss. Never.

 

[vandemataram]

. He never posts after a loss. Never.

Then i guess India one the last test match against Pakiatsn too

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

I already said that Asif is good, however he's no Pathan, who is certainly the best pacers from the two teams

On what evidence? Irfan Pathan still hasn't performed consistently against quality opposition to date. I'm not going to call Asif better, but Pathan certainly isn't as good as you seem to think. Both are essentially unproven. Pathan may be more accomplished, but accomplishments mean little in the grand scheme of things.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Then i guess India one the last test match against Pakiatsn too

No, India clearly twopointfived the last Test against Pakistan.

 

[silentstriker]

On what evidence? Irfan Pathan still hasn't performed consistently against quality opposition to date. I'm not going to call Asif better, but Pathan certainly isn't as good as you seem to think. Both are essentially unproven. Pathan may be more accomplished, but accomplishments mean little in the grand scheme of things.

I agree, they are both unproven. Pathan needs to take wickets against quality opposition outside the subcontinent. Most of his wickets so far have come against Bangladesh and Zimbabwe.

He has potential, but at this point, thats all it is.

 

[Jono]

He needs to take wickets agianst quality opposition, most definitely. However one can hardly fault him for taking wickets in the sub-continent, since the pitches he has recently been bowling on have hardly favoured fast bowling.

 

[vandemataram]

No, India clearly twopointfived the last Test against Pakistan.

You didn't get it didn't you???

I was pointing out the fact that even when India loses the match i have no problem in posting messages

 

[vandemataram]

Sub-Average?

OK, talking about sides at full strength (Akhtar + Kaneria included, Giles included):

Pakistan's attack is better than: India, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, New Zealand, West Indies and South Africa.

Pakistan has 2 match winners in Akhtar and Danish, Danish also happen to be very expensive on most occasion and is not in the class of Kumble.

India on the other hand has 3 match winners in Kumble,Pathan and Harbhajan!!! India also has an emerging talent in RPS!!!

Also ,the bench strength of India is far stronger than that of Pakistan.Certainly India has a better attack both in terms of quality & variety!

 

[Sanz]

I'm waiting to see what Sachin does against a real quality attack like England's first....

Well It's going to be a test for this so called 'Real Quality Attack' as well.

 

[Sanz]

Great Win by India. Despite losing the first ODI India have dominated the series so far. Indian won without Sehwag and Dravid's poor use of Supersub. What was the point of replacing Agarkar with Zaheer esp when AA was bowling well and definately is a better bat.

 

[Tony Blade]

A good all-round performance by India, hopefully Pakistan can come back yet.

 

[sheerindianspeed]

Pakistan's attack is better than: India, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, New Zealand, West Indies and South Africa.

Its high time that some of Pak cricket fan comes to modern day reality and stop living in dreams.Its true that Pakistan once had a very good pace attack, but gone are the days, and now they have a very ordinary attack.

I quote the words a legends of subcontinent, the respected Bishen Singh Bedi.While commenting on India-Pak OD contest Bedi said, that Indian batsmen would face no problem in handling the ordinary Pakistan bowling attack except the "illegeal thunders" ( he was referring to the chucking of Akhtar)!!! And the good thing is that he has been proven right.India has so far scored nealy 300 runs in all 3 ODI and that too at the loss of few wkts !!

Fact is that apart from some no-balling stuff, the bowling attack is pretty bening and batsmen friendly.

 

[sheerindianspeed]

A good all-round performance by India, hopefully Pakistan can come back yet.

They need more than hope, maybe a miracle, as they have lost Afridi after Akhtar!!

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

He needs to take wickets agianst quality opposition, most definitely. However one can hardly fault him for taking wickets in the sub-continent, since the pitches he has recently been bowling on have hardly favoured fast bowling.

Pathan thrives on the new ball swing that is generally around in the subcontinent, but is much less common in places like Australia and the West Indies, particularly in recent years. One of the concerns I would have about his bowling would be his ability to take wickets in such places, given his lack of pace and so on.

Anyway, it's not really about what the wickets do, but the ability to perform in unfamiliar conditions that is a major test for every bowler.

 

[GladiatrsInBlue]

India could have wrap up the series today if that D/L thing wouldn't happen in the 1st ODI. They needed 18 off 18 balls with 3 wickets in hand. We had more chances of winning, but no worries as long as Sachin, Dravid, Yuvi and Dhoni bhai are in form; Pakistan won't do anything to India. I'm sure all the Pakistan fans in Pakistan know Dhoni pretty well and knows that he's go to blast Pak bowlers off in the remaining matches as well

This series remains interesting only coz of the D/l factor in the first match which deprived India of being the deserving winners, otherwise there seems to be a no contest between the two teams.India are rock solid in nearly all department of the games and are playing as a team, while Pakistan are pathetic and no match to Indian team.

4-1 to India

 

[yohanna]

Pakistan batsmen looks out of form, their running b/w wkts is terrible.Pakistan bowling is awful, with only Asif looking impressive, while Pak fielding got to be the worst in the world atm.As such its possible thta Pakistan would end up losing the last two matches as well.

If that happens, everyone will forget about the test series and will be out for Inzi's blood.

Heads will roll.

 

[alternative]

Well deserved victory for INDIAN's, i liked the point of india chasing down a very good ODI score, it was very impressive..

Would also like to see pakistan make few changes in their to make it more challenging, like bringing in sami...

 

[pug]

I quote the words a legends of subcontinent, the respected Bishen Singh Bedi.While commenting on India-Pak OD contest Bedi said, that Indian batsmen would face no problem in handling the ordinary Pakistan bowling attack except the "illegeal thunders" ( he was referring to the chucking of Akhtar)!!! And the good thing is that he has been proven right.India has so far scored nealy 300 runs in all 3 ODI and that too at the loss of few wkts !!

I resent that. By calling Pakistani bowling ordinary you're taking away a lot from Sachin's incredible innings yesterday. It was definitely one of his better ones that I can recall in the near past.

And most of the talkshows with past Indian greats are absolutely crap.

But, interesting signature you got.

 

[pug]

Pakistan batsmen looks out of form, their running b/w wkts is terrible.Pakistan bowling is awful, with only Asif looking impressive, while Pak fielding got to be the worst in the world atm.As such its possible thta Pakistan would end up losing the last two matches as well.

Gul was good as well.

The problem with both teams is that they don't have anyone to carry on after the top bowlers have left. With India its the problem of a spinner. They must get Powar in for the next matc. Twice already the lack of a regular 5th bowler has hurt India. For Pakistan, they must get another regular bowler. With Shoaib taking the new ball and Asif and Gul following up and perhaps razzq, the attack looks very formidable.