***Official*** India in Pakistan

[danish]

Pakistan's ******** fielding and Rana's rubbish making Yuvraj and Dhoni look sublime.

 

[UncleTheOne]

Dhoni on fire but some of the bowling has been really poor.

 

[Jono]

Seeing as whenever Pathan scores any runs, you remind me of my "can't bat" comment, would this be a good time to bring it up again?

Lol the minute I saw Pathan get a duck I was wondering if you were going to reply.

If you did bring it up suggesting that 2 ball ducks means a player can't bat I would probably just reply with "I guess Salman Butt, the same guy that dealt out some nice spankings to England's quality pace attack in both forms of the game, can't bat either "

That being said, you still sticking with Inzy > Sachin in the ODI arena? Sachin averaging 79 for the series with his only bad year in ODIs lately being an injury ridden 2005? Not to mention he's easily one of the 3 greatest ODI batsman ever. Inzy, against an inferior bowling attack, averaging significantly less this series however, a meagre 13.3.

 

[Pratters]

I come back from work seeing a tight match. All I have witnessed has been Dhoni fours

 

[Jono]

Dhoni came to the crease 16 overs after Yuvraj, and he's almost taken over his score. And I remind you, Yuvraj is far from a slouch going at a SR of about 90. Dhoni in one word is a freak. He loves these pressure situations late in the innings, and I think its the perfect spot for him.

 

[Resha]

It's such a close match now, with the number of runs and balls being neck-to-neck. But they have tons of wickets in hand, India, and I guess they'll do it!

 

[Jono]

Ah what a lovely win. Sachin, Yuvraj, Dhoni, Pathan with the ball... just great. That's three brilliant batting performances by India, and 2 good to decent performances with the ball. Only thing that really needs improvement is that they've had Pakistan on the ropes twice with the bat (3 times if you include the 3rd test) and allowed them to get off the hook. Hopefully if they have another great start with the ball they can take Pakistan down all the way, but I guess when they bat to 8 its tough to do.

A great day for an Indian cricket fan though. Sachin's back, and Dhoni and Yuvraj continuing to shine

 

[Neil Pickup]

Lol the minute I saw Pathan get a duck I was wondering if you were going to reply.

If you did bring it up suggesting that 2 ball ducks means a player can't bat I would probably just reply with "I guess Salman Butt, the same guy that dealt out some nice spankings to England's quality pace attack in both forms of the game, can't bat either "

That being said, you still sticking with Inzy > Sachin in the ODI arena? Sachin averaging 79 for the series with his only bad year in ODIs lately being an injury ridden 2005? Not to mention he's easily one of the 3 greatest ODI batsman ever. Inzy, against an inferior bowling attack, averaging significantly less this series however, a meagre 13.3.

I'm waiting to see what Sachin does against a real quality attack like England's first....

 

[Jono]

I'm waiting to see what Sachin does against a real quality attack like England's first....

Yeah that'll be the first time in 14 000+ ODI runs he comes up against a quality attack eh Forget McGrath/Warne, forget Wasim/Waqar and let's also forget Donald/Pollock. He's not proven untl he faces England. Its besides the point anyway. You point blank claimed "Inzy > Sachin", simply because he seemed to score at will against the great English team. Firstly, the test arena is different from the ODI arena. Whilst Sachin has been inconsistent in the test format since the beginning of 2003, he's still been belting attacks worldwide in the ODI arena, and I pointed this out on CW before. People talk about his decline but forget there is a difference between tests and ODIs. His only poor year in ODI cricket since he became an established name was in 2005 where he was basically playing with one arm anyway.

Secondly, that same Inzy who flayed the English attack has been outscored by Sachin despite facing a far inferior attack that includes that allrounder that apparently not only cant bat, but can't bowl too named Irfan Pathan as well as the might of Sree Santh, Zaheer, Agarkar and let's not forget Sachin bowling some seam ups himself. Sachin may not have come up against Shoaib in this ODI series, but Asif is a real talent who managed to take 2-14 against England, and Rana and Afridi were good enough to 9 wickets at 24.77 and 6 wickets at 18.33 against England as well. But forget that, not a good attack at all.

There's always an excuse. First there's clams that Pathan can't bat, he goes on to show that whilst he's no world beater and far from a Flintoff, he can actually bat saving India's behind on various occasions. Dhoni starts flaying attacks, and just because of a few idiot Indian fans who begin claiming he's a God and better than Gilly, the knee-jerk reaction is that he's overrated and one or two knocks don't make a summer. Well by my count that's more than a couple of brilliant knocks from him, many coming in pressure situations chasing large totals. Some including runs against the same Murali and Vaas that have bowled SL to 2 victories against Australia. If Symonds and Ponting can score runs against Murali and Vaas and it be claimed as fantastic knocks (which they were), then Dhoni's performances against the SL attack should be rated just as well.

 

[pug]

I'm waiting to see what Sachin does against a real quality attack like England's first....

Disbeliever.

 

[Hit4Six]

Yeah that'll be the first time in 14 000+ ODI runs he comes up against a quality attack eh Forget McGrath/Warne, forget Wasim/Waqar and let's also forget Donald/Pollock. He's not proven untl he faces England. Its besides the point anyway. You point blank claimed "Inzy > Sachin", simply because he seemed to score at will against the great English team. Firstly, the test arena is different from the ODI arena. Whilst Sachin has been inconsistent in the test format since the beginning of 2003, he's still been belting attacks worldwide in the ODI arena, and I pointed this out on CW before. People talk about his decline but forget there is a difference between tests and ODIs. His only poor year in ODI cricket since he became an established name was in 2005 where he was basically playing with one arm anyway.

Secondly, that same Inzy who flayed the English attack has been outscored by Sachin despite facing a far inferior attack that includes that allrounder that apparently not only cant bat, but can't bowl too named Irfan Pathan as well as the might of Sree Santh, Zaheer, Agarkar and let's not forget Sachin bowling some seam ups himself. Sachin may not have come up against Shoaib in this ODI series, but Asif is a real talent who managed to take 2-14 against England, and Rana and Afridi were good enough to 9 wickets at 24.77 and 6 wickets at 18.33 against England as well. But forget that, not a good attack at all.

There's always an excuse. First there's clams that Pathan can't bat, he goes on to show that whilst he's no world beater and far from a Flintoff, he can actually bat saving India's behind on various occasions. Dhoni starts flaying attacks, and just because of a few idiot Indian fans who begin claiming he's a God and better than Gilly, the knee-jerk reaction is that he's overrated and one or two knocks don't make a summer. Well by my count that's more than a couple of brilliant knocks from him, many coming in pressure situations chasing large totals. Some including runs against the same Murali and Vaas that have bowled SL to 2 victories against Australia. If Symonds and Ponting can score runs against Murali and Vaas and it be claimed as fantastic knocks (which they were), then Dhoni's performances against the SL attack should be rated just as well.

amen

 

[danish]

India goes into the series with a 2-1 lead. Cue a stampede under the bridge, the trolls are coming! Credit to India though, especially Dhoni, Yuvraj and SRT.

 

[Pratters]

ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! SACHIN!!!!

So close to a well deserved ton, and he goes out. Then my boy Kaif follows suit. I'm absolutely shattered!!!

Come on Yuvraj, take India home!

Never mind dude. He played a crucial inning which helped his team win eventually.

 

[silentstriker]

I'm waiting to see what Sachin does against a real quality attack like England's first....

Yes, we all saw the quality of the English attack in Pakistan. Get a real spinner, then come back and talk.

I would take the Pakistani attack over the English attack anyway. Australia and Pakistan have better bowling attacks then England. England bowlers had a fantastic year leading upto and including the Ashes, but they've been found out. Let's see how they do in India.

Get ready to be belted around.

Not to mention, implying that Sachin has not faced good bowling attacks is ludicrous. Warne alone is better bowler than all four of your seamers put together.

There are the top six ODI bowlers:

Brett Lee
Shaun Pollock
Glenn McGrath
Naved-ul-Hasan
Muttiah Muralitharan
Chaminda Vaas

Sachin has scored against all of them.


Here are the top six Test bowlers:

Glenn McGrath
Muttiah Muralitharan
Shane Warne
Andrew Flintoff
Makhaya Ntini
Chaminda Vaas

And he has scored off those as well. Flintoff is left, but he will be overused as usual, and eventually belted.

 

[Barney Rubble]

Yes, we all saw the quality of the English attack in Pakistan. Get a real spinner, then come back and talk.

I would take the Pakistani attack over the English attack anyway. Australia and Pakistan have better bowling attacks then England. England bowlers had a fantastic year leading upto and including the Ashes, but they've been found out. Let's see how they do in India.

Get ready to be belted around.

Oh great, just what we need. Another one.

 

[shankar]

ARY Digital's coverage makes it look like someone left Dartfish on permanently.

 

[shankar]

I'm waiting to see what Sachin does against a real quality attack like England's first....

I know looking at the scorecard, it looks like it was a regular innings on a flat-track. But, you need to have seen the first 15 overs of the Indian innings - Asif (and btw this guy will definitely be the find of the year for World cricket) and Gul were bowling brilliantly, moving the ball dangerously. This inning was definitely one of the better ones of his career.

 

[danish]

Oh great, just what we need. Another one.

As I said, cue the stampede under the bridge.

 

[aussie]

Yeah that'll be the first time in 14 000+ ODI runs he comes up against a quality attack eh Forget McGrath/Warne, forget Wasim/Waqar and let's also forget Donald/Pollock. He's not proven untl he faces England. Its besides the point anyway. You point blank claimed "Inzy > Sachin", simply because he seemed to score at will against the great English team. Firstly, the test arena is different from the ODI arena. Whilst Sachin has been inconsistent in the test format since the beginning of 2003, he's still been belting attacks worldwide in the ODI arena, and I pointed this out on CW before. People talk about his decline but forget there is a difference between tests and ODIs. His only poor year in ODI cricket since he became an established name was in 2005 where he was basically playing with one arm anyway.

Secondly, that same Inzy who flayed the English attack has been outscored by Sachin despite facing a far inferior attack that includes that allrounder that apparently not only cant bat, but can't bowl too named Irfan Pathan as well as the might of Sree Santh, Zaheer, Agarkar and let's not forget Sachin bowling some seam ups himself. Sachin may not have come up against Shoaib in this ODI series, but Asif is a real talent who managed to take 2-14 against England, and Rana and Afridi were good enough to 9 wickets at 24.77 and 6 wickets at 18.33 against England as well. But forget that, not a good attack at all.

There's always an excuse. First there's clams that Pathan can't bat, he goes on to show that whilst he's no world beater and far from a Flintoff, he can actually bat saving India's behind on various occasions. Dhoni starts flaying attacks, and just because of a few idiot Indian fans who begin claiming he's a God and better than Gilly, the knee-jerk reaction is that he's overrated and one or two knocks don't make a summer. Well by my count that's more than a couple of brilliant knocks from him, many coming in pressure situations chasing large totals. Some including runs against the same Murali and Vaas that have bowled SL to 2 victories against Australia. If Symonds and Ponting can score runs against Murali and Vaas and it be claimed as fantastic knocks (which they were), then Dhoni's performances against the SL attack should be rated just as well.

i've been a CW for just under a year now and i must say this is one of the better post i've read, well said Jono

 

[maxpower]

I'm waiting to see what Sachin does against a real quality attack like England's first....

yeah that test should make or break the kid's career. but even a bigger test awaits vaughn and co. when they face the all might AA, now that will prove how good ENG is.