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*Official* India in Pakistan Thread

Magrat Garlick

Rather Mad Witch
thehellraiser said:
does anyone really know who won the man of the match.....coz sky sports stopped showing it after ganguly came into talk
http://www.cricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/2003-04/IND_IN_PAK/SCORECARDS/IND_PAK_ODI2_16MAR2004.html

According to this, SR Tendulkar.

And yeah, I don't really agree with awarding it to Inzy either. As stated, the Man of the Match should help the winning team to take the game home.

Edit: Learn to BBcode...

Second Edit, slightly off-topic: Happy birthday CDAK!
 
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My congrats to Pak fans.Their team has proved that in oneday cricket whoever plays better on the day wins the match, regardless of the strength of the 2 teams.



Sami and Akhter were very good in the match, however the "cricketweb hyped up bowler" Shabbir was taken to the cleaner in the match.I hope for India's sake that Shabbir plays all the matches in the series.Pak did well by playing with 6 bowlers as some of the bowlers are not upto the task (espacially Razzak).


As far as India is concerned, Zaheer Khan is proving to be embaressment for the team, so far he has done nothing except getting hammared in matches. Nehra's injury is a blow but Pathan will take over his place in next matches. I think a replacement fast bowler should be send to Pak, either Munaf or Salvi , to play in the series if another pacer gets injured or if Zaheer continue to perform pathetically.


Sachin was superb, i think Balaji's runout was the turning point of the match. Power did justice with his selection , i think India should now go all out in third onedayer.India should now be playing for pride as the third onedayer is going to be played in Lahore where the Indian P.M might well be in stadium to watch the match.
 
A Nehra once gaian showed his class, unfortunately he's out with injury now:( . This series will be poorer without the great left armer. Lets hope he gets well soon.



I wonder why Pathan is being sidelined? he should be in place of Balaji. Also i think there should have been a specialist off spinner in the team, Sarandeep would have been a great choice.

It appears to me that which ever team bat first is going to win the match, a lot depend upon the toss itself.BTW Akhter was good, but he wasn't even close to what he was against NZ and SA.I guess he is now against batsmen of totally different class.
 

Swervy

International Captain
vandemataram said:
A Nehra once gaian showed his class, unfortunately he's out with injury now:( . This series will be poorer without the great left armer. Lets hope he gets well soon.



I wonder why Pathan is being sidelined? he should be in place of Balaji. Also i think there should have been a specialist off spinner in the team, Sarandeep would have been a great choice.

It appears to me that which ever team bat first is going to win the match, a lot depend upon the toss itself.BTW Akhter was good, but he wasn't even close to what he was against NZ and SA.I guess he is now against batsmen of totally different class.
I get confused with this...the other day every one was saying Nehra is a joke bowler...now he is 'great'
 
Swervy said:
I get confused with this...the other day every one was saying Nehra is a joke bowler...now he is 'great'

Joke????? His performance in the last two matches has been wonderful, in contrast the hyped up bowler are proving to be jokes!!!

Just because Nehra didn't perform well in 1 or 2 series after the world cup doesn't mean he is good.He basically struggled because of injury/injuries, if he remains fit then he can become the top most bowler of the world.
 

Swervy

International Captain
vandemataram said:
Joke????? His performance in the last two matches has been wonderful, in contrast the hyped up bowler are proving to be jokes!!!

Just because Nehra didn't perform well in 1 or 2 series after the world cup doesn't mean he is good.He basically struggled because of injury/injuries, if he remains fit then he can become the top most bowler of the world.
i think he has a long long way to go to becoming the top bowler in the world
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
vishnureddy said:
They were facing the yorkers of Sami and Shoiab pretty well and scoring of them too.
But I thought that that sort of ball is impossible to score off? ...
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
ajaagarkarajaaja said:
My congrats to Pak fans.Their team has proved that in oneday cricket whoever plays better on the day wins the match, regardless of the strength of the 2 teams.
Well seeing as most people before the series couldn't split the sides on ability, it is going to come down to the better side on the day.

ajaagarkarajaaja said:
As far as India is concerned, Zaheer Khan is proving to be embaressment for the team, so far he has done nothing except getting hammared in matches.
Isn't he injured to a degree and thus really shouldn't be playing? For me, when fit, he's the bestseamer India have (although that isn't really saying a lot!)


ajaagarkarajaaja said:
Sachin was superb, i think Balaji's runout was the turning point of the match.
India had lost it before that little revival though - numbers 9 and 10 don't score 50 in 5 overs against calss bowlers.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
vandemataram said:
Just because Nehra didn't perform well in 1 or 2 series after the world cup doesn't mean he is good.
It's more than just 1 or 2 series, it's his whole career...
 

ReallyCrazy

Banned
vandemataram said:
I wonder why Pathan is being sidelined? he should be in place of Balaji.
I don't think so. IMO Balaji is the better bowler. While Pathan was impressing a lot of ppl in Australian tour, I was actually always more impressed by Balaji. That guy is damn accurate, alot more accurate than Zaheer Khan. He's got a nice future in front of him and is going to be a vital bowler for India especially at the death. Pathan is aggressive and swings the ball well. Balaji may not possess that charisma but he's a hard worker and in the end its hard work that pays off.

LOL and he almost won this match today with his bat.


Oh n I hate to say it but Ganguly played crap today. I hope he does something and comes back sstrongly. He scored just 15 off 38 balls. He could have played better.
 

Haris-Melbourne

Cricket Spectator
ajaagarkarajaaja said:

Sachin was superb, i think Balaji's runout was the turning point of the match. Power did justice with his selection , i think India should now go all out in third onedayer.India should now be playing for pride as the third onedayer is going to be played in Lahore where the Indian P.M might well be in stadium to watch the match.
3rd ODI is in Peshawar, not in Lahore. Foreign Pffice of Pak has just annjounced that Vajpayee isn't expected for any match during the series in pak.

Another fantastic piece of cricket. Depending on the next couple of ODI, this series could go down as one of the all time favourite ODI series in cricket history.

Cant wait for the thrid ODI.
 

CDAK

U19 Debutant
Samuel_Vimes said:
http://www.cricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/2003-04/IND_IN_PAK/SCORECARDS/IND_PAK_ODI2_16MAR2004.html

According to this, SR Tendulkar.

And yeah, I don't really agree with awarding it to Inzy either. As stated, the Man of the Match should help the winning team to take the game home.

Edit: Learn to BBcode...

Second Edit, slightly off-topic: Happy birthday CDAK!
off topic : Thank u Samuels..I'm really thankful to BCCI & PCB for conducting a match on the special occasion of my B'day:D :D

The People of pakistan continue surprising me with their high qulaity spectatorship. It'll help them to earn more respect from other nations .
Players are also seen to be very friendly similar to the Windies team Under Richards.
 

V Reddy

International Debutant
Swervy said:
I get confused with this...the other day every one was saying Nehra is a joke bowler...now he is 'great'
You aren't getting it. Vandemataram has always been a big fan of Nehra and was the one who compared Nehra to Akram during the 2003 World Cup which created a lot of debate on the forum in recent times. I and Richard rate Ramprakash highly but that doesn't mean everyone does :saint:
 

V Reddy

International Debutant
marc71178 said:
But I thought that that sort of ball is impossible to score off? ...
They were driving it down the ground and getting 2 off them every ball and now and then were getting outside edges for four. I think they got used to those yorkers at that time before Balaji got runout
 
Isn't he injured to a degree and thus really shouldn't be playing? For me, when fit, he's the bestseamer India have (although that isn't really saying a lot!)

Sorry, but the best is Ajit Agarkar, who unfortunately isn't available for OD series.In the test series he will be playing along with Kumble and you will see how runs will suddenly dries up(From pak side)

3rd ODI is in Peshawar, not in Lahore. Foreign Pffice of Pak has just annjounced that Vajpayee isn't expected for any match during the series in pak.
Oh i got that wrong.I wish Vajpayee had plans to go to Pak, would have been wonderful to see the PM over there supporting out team and our team in turn beating Pak's in the series to becaome the deserving winners.
 

Beleg

International Regular
Powar and Balaji weren't scoring handsomely from Yorkers.
Afridi got hit for two fours. Akhtar got hit for fours on a slow ball, a rather short ball and a half volley outside the off stump.
Sami never got hit. None of them, apart from Sami really bowled yorkers. The closest Akhtar came to a yorker was the ball that got Khan, the only ball which really reverse swung.

Tendulkar deserved his award.
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
I just read Nehra's out for the series. Ouch. :(

I'd keep going with Powar over Kartik, drop Zaheer for Pathan and bring in Bhandari for Nehra. Hopefully that'll have some success. :(
 

tooextracool

International Coach
marc71178 said:
The nature of the man meant that had he gone in at 249-4 or 249-5 with 10 overs left, he may very well have got out quickly.

By sending Malik in, they built him a platform to swing nearer the end, where his dismissal wouldn't have exposed the tail for anywhere near as long (and hence potentially wasted overs)
i think that u underestimate abdul razzaqs abilities as a batsman.razzaq is capable of building a platform as well as really slogging out of the park and can bat at any position and its no coincidence that he averages 55 at no 5 in ODIs and 43 at no 3 in tests. with 11 overs to spare and the score at 250/4 he is the ideal man to send in and we have seen on so so many occasions how he has turned around matches in the last 10 overs.let me remind u that at 249/4 moin khan came into bat not malik which shows that pakistan wanted quick runs and u must also remember that he was out 1st ball what u were expecting razzaq to do...and they still got to 330.
 

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