silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
Why are the Indian players opening up? India can't win. Just keep batting.
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TT Boy
Hall of Fame Member
Because if they collapse they actually have something to fall back on?
cowboysfan
U19 Debutant
haha-you are joking right?that is a more paranoid comment than ones made by some pakistan fans.
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
The guy has been there for 600 minutes. The chance of a collapse is much higher if they open up, rather than banking on what got them through 151 overs for loss of only three wickets.
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
Again, a run out chance and one in the air! So close to losing the plot and throwing away two days of work here. Calm down and just keep batting for a run or two an over. It's enough.
Flem274*
123/5
Whenever the idea of greentops has been floated down here, thats been the rebuttal by the non-greentop brigade.
Its not too far fetched to suggest that if we had swept the series 2 or 3-0 via 2002 greentops, there would have been frowns from the BCCI again.
TT Boy
Hall of Fame Member
Gambhir didn't open up, he was bowled a bad ball and put it away. Nothing wrong with that. Laxman played the risky shot.
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
What makes you say that?
Flem274*
123/5
There were frowns last time weren't there? I certainly remember an interview with Ganguly where he was unhappy. I was 12 or so though, so my memory may be faulty. however as my memory serves, they weren't happy and if it happened again in the current climate, there's those in NZ that believe that it would damage cricketing relations (Mark Richardson being their leader).
Flem274*
123/5
They had even bounce iirc. sure they were dificult, very dificult, but they were the equivalent of what this pitch and many other pitches are to bowlers.
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
Ganguly doesn't decide the tours. You can't attribute what players say to what BCCI does. Kumble was unhappy for a decade with what Indian groundsmen did to the boundaries. Nothing happened.
People who think it does are speaking out of their ass. That's not the way BCCI think. Speaking honestly, NZ could prepare Tests that last one day or ones that wouldn't have a result in a hundred years, and BCCI would still look at only two things when deciding tours: money and/or politics. That's it. Preparing greentops or flat tops will not make a difference, BCCI doesn't particularly care how the team does.
Flem274*
123/5
I think the BCCI does care to an extent about how the team does tbh.
Anyway, my point is that certain sections down here, rightly or wrongly, believe that preparing nasty greentops would screw over cricketing relations between the two. Also, the brainless idea that a flat pitch is a good pitch, means that if NZC believes either idea (there's a fair chance), then this will continue.
Its not, as Cowboyfan (think it was him) suggested, a fear of Indias pace bowlers thats stopping us from preparing greentops. NZC (and groundsmen, in fact if there are three day tests they cop stick from all kinds of people) is either worried about the BCCI, thinks draws are good cricket, or both.
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
Not when deciding tours, they don't. They'd tour Iraq in the middle of the Battle of Fallujah if there was money.
Well, it's the dumbest view I've ever heard. I can't believe Mark Richardson is peddling it. I'd actually be slightly happy if that view turned out to be true - it means they actually care somewhat (
). Not true though.
Flem274*
123/5
Not saying I completely agree with it (though its not out of the realms of possibility, stranger things have happened) but yes, I would mostly agree, the main example of that view was an article richardson wrote about "pleasing the boss", think its on cricinfo.
EDIT: He basically says we need to avoid green seamers and not get creamed and just lose respectably, some crap along those lines.
If this is a draw though, there will probably be a change of opinion with calls for a greentop.
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cowboysfan
U19 Debutant
ss is right-touring nz is just not profitable for BCCI-thats the only reason we dont tour here more often.
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
I'm not saying you agree with it, but I think those who do agree with it need to understand a little bit on how the BCCI works. They wouldn't censure their own groundsmen for creating such wickets, for fear of losing out on a vote at the next election. BCCI don't think in the terms Mark Richardson says.
