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*Official* India in Australia Thread
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Salamuddin
International Debutant
The series has been fairly even so far.
Re this final day, KUmble will certainly create wicket taking opportunities. The other Indian bowlers and the fielders need to support him well.
It should be a great final day, but I hope rain doesn't play spoilsport.
As I write, it is looking very gloomy in Western Sydney.
Go India GO !!
Re this final day, KUmble will certainly create wicket taking opportunities. The other Indian bowlers and the fielders need to support him well.
It should be a great final day, but I hope rain doesn't play spoilsport.
As I write, it is looking very gloomy in Western Sydney.
Go India GO !!
age_master
Hall of Fame Member
hehe i think Kumble is a good chance of bowling nearly that many overs, but he will go for alot more runs i thinkmarc71178 said:
Australia are a chance of winning, but will have to play Kumble wvery very well otherwise he will again take wickets. he bowled exceptionally in the first innings.
age_master
Hall of Fame Member
marc71178 said:
interesting decision by Ganguly, the right one in the end, i wonder if hes regretting not declaring a little earlier, as he might have picked up a couple early Aussie wickets, i think considering his teams batting form he has been far to defensive throughout the test match
Neil Pickup
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Would be typical of cricket for the rain to go and spoil it.
340/7 at close, I reckon.
Waugh (100*) and Gillepsie there at the close.
340/7 at close, I reckon.
Waugh (100*) and Gillepsie there at the close.
krkode
State Captain
Now that I think of it, I think Ganguly's decision gives India the best chance for victory.
As someone earelier said, This is a target that Australia will very likely go for. If they were followed on, there would be little hope for Australia, and they might just buckle down and the Indian bowlers would hardly be able to take all 10 wickets.
Now that they might actually go for the target, gives India a much better chance.
This match has the making of legends either way. So many records will be broken with either result :wow:
I predict Australia will go 394 a.o. Kumble another good haul. Langer a second century.
As someone earelier said, This is a target that Australia will very likely go for. If they were followed on, there would be little hope for Australia, and they might just buckle down and the Indian bowlers would hardly be able to take all 10 wickets.
Now that they might actually go for the target, gives India a much better chance.
This match has the making of legends either way. So many records will be broken with either result :wow:
I predict Australia will go 394 a.o. Kumble another good haul. Langer a second century.
Pratters
Cricket, Lovely Cricket
Ganguly has brought the Aussies back into the game
This is what I wrote in my cricket blog and feel it relevent to right here too. People are saying the series was 50/50 all the time and India were at the back foot. Well they dominated in the last match and Ganguly's stupidity in declaring is to be blamed. The Aussies would no dount deserve to win if they chase the runs (which is not impossible and I am bloody scared they can chase it if they dont lose quick wickets!), but Gangugly had them into this position.
No team has ever lost a test match after scoring 700 runs in the first innings. India would not have had any chance of losing and had a good chance of winning too after Australia were bowled out below 500. With 1 and a half days to go in the match and India having a lead of about 230, Australia would have tried to make 400, declare and set India a taregt of about 170 in 50 overs? That would be a huge risk which would still mean India having huge chance of winning. If Australia declared batting any more, it would be nearly impossible to bowl India out in less than 50 overs.
There would obviously have been the possibility of bowling out Australia cheaply in the second inning which too was improbable considering Indian bowlers lacked teeth in the first inning. That was always going to be the case with both teams. When Kumble gets 8 wickets owling 40 overs, you know how badly the other bowlers have bowled.
But what did India and Ganguly do? He batted and took the risk of coming under pressure by losing quick wickets. That didn't really happen and now the match is setup on the fifth day with Australia requiring 4 and half runs in the last day. Its certainly as possible as India having the chance to take 10 wickets in 90 overs considering no one except Kumble has bowled like a test bowler should. Murali Kartik has to bowl very well to have any chance in the last day.
Its an illogical decision also from the fact that you get just 90 overs to bowl the Australian batsmen out rather than a day and half which you had early. Simply put, Ganguly got this one completely wrong. It means a very interesting day of test cricket is ahead of us to climax the most interesting test series since India last played the Aussies in a test series. But its only because Ganguly handed Australia a sniff of a chance. It's the best gift Steve Waugh could have asked God which he would try to use as best as he could in the last day of test cricket he plays.
This is what I wrote in my cricket blog and feel it relevent to right here too. People are saying the series was 50/50 all the time and India were at the back foot. Well they dominated in the last match and Ganguly's stupidity in declaring is to be blamed. The Aussies would no dount deserve to win if they chase the runs (which is not impossible and I am bloody scared they can chase it if they dont lose quick wickets!), but Gangugly had them into this position.
No team has ever lost a test match after scoring 700 runs in the first innings. India would not have had any chance of losing and had a good chance of winning too after Australia were bowled out below 500. With 1 and a half days to go in the match and India having a lead of about 230, Australia would have tried to make 400, declare and set India a taregt of about 170 in 50 overs? That would be a huge risk which would still mean India having huge chance of winning. If Australia declared batting any more, it would be nearly impossible to bowl India out in less than 50 overs.
There would obviously have been the possibility of bowling out Australia cheaply in the second inning which too was improbable considering Indian bowlers lacked teeth in the first inning. That was always going to be the case with both teams. When Kumble gets 8 wickets owling 40 overs, you know how badly the other bowlers have bowled.
But what did India and Ganguly do? He batted and took the risk of coming under pressure by losing quick wickets. That didn't really happen and now the match is setup on the fifth day with Australia requiring 4 and half runs in the last day. Its certainly as possible as India having the chance to take 10 wickets in 90 overs considering no one except Kumble has bowled like a test bowler should. Murali Kartik has to bowl very well to have any chance in the last day.
Its an illogical decision also from the fact that you get just 90 overs to bowl the Australian batsmen out rather than a day and half which you had early. Simply put, Ganguly got this one completely wrong. It means a very interesting day of test cricket is ahead of us to climax the most interesting test series since India last played the Aussies in a test series. But its only because Ganguly handed Australia a sniff of a chance. It's the best gift Steve Waugh could have asked God which he would try to use as best as he could in the last day of test cricket he plays.
Salamuddin
International Debutant
Sometimes to attain victory it is necessary to risk defeat.
Neil Pickup
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I think it's an excellent declaration. The Aussies could have just dropped anchor and batted India totally out of the game and into draw territory.
As things stand, Australia have an immense run chase at a high runrate on a fifth day pitch.
As things stand, Australia have an immense run chase at a high runrate on a fifth day pitch.
Pratters
Cricket, Lovely Cricket
The thing is, India had a better chance of winning taking the 10 wickets in more overs. Now they have just 90 overs to do it. You bowl and bat again in the 4th Inning if necessary with a situation you know rather than one you dont.
BTW, the sky looks clear in the PREMATCH show which is a good sign for a good test cricket day on hand.
Neil Pickup
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I disagree. There is incentive and pressure on the Aussies, if they had followed on the match would most likely have stuttered to a very dull draw.Pratyush said:
Pratters
Cricket, Lovely Cricket
India would have had one and half days to bowl the Aussies out and chase a target if necessary. The bowled them out in less than 2 days in the first inning. Surely they could do the same in the second inning if not better.
Here, you have only 90 overs. One good session of batting by the Aussies without losing wickets would mean 90% India canot win the match.
EDIT - Also I must add, you never know how much it will rain (which was forcast early on) today. Which makes the declaration more of a wrong decision. Ganguly may not even get 90 overs to bowl the Aussies out.
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Slow Love™
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IMO, Pratyush is right. Although I don't give the Aussies much chance to win, enforcing the follow-on would have given India every chance of victory, and no real chance of losing. I know there were people that thought that Australia setting India 170-odd in a couple of sessions might have tested them, but I think that would have been handing the Indians the game on a silver platter. Our bowlers have struggled far too much to contain them.
There was the thought that Kumble might need a rest, but that could have been slightly alleviated by not bringing Kumble on for 20-25 overs. And the worst that could happen to India would still have been a draw. I just think that in batting again, his chances of a win were less than if he enforced the follow-on - and then there's the weather to think about, too.
Both sides' have looked most vulnerable in the field rather than with the bat in this series, and that's where India are standing, right now. It wasn't necessary for Ganguly to risk defeat to attain victory in this match - in fact, not enforcing the follow-on reduced his chances. I rank the Aussies at 50/50 for the draw now, whilst I think we were in horrible trouble if we had followed on.
There was the thought that Kumble might need a rest, but that could have been slightly alleviated by not bringing Kumble on for 20-25 overs. And the worst that could happen to India would still have been a draw. I just think that in batting again, his chances of a win were less than if he enforced the follow-on - and then there's the weather to think about, too.
Both sides' have looked most vulnerable in the field rather than with the bat in this series, and that's where India are standing, right now. It wasn't necessary for Ganguly to risk defeat to attain victory in this match - in fact, not enforcing the follow-on reduced his chances. I rank the Aussies at 50/50 for the draw now, whilst I think we were in horrible trouble if we had followed on.
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krkode
State Captain
The number of overs available to bowl out a team is little significance next to the batting team's incentive.
If the batting team drops anchor and just stays there, there's little the bowling can do. Especially when the batting team is Australia and the bowling team is India.
Australia can easily play 100+ overs, because they're that good.
The non-follow-on strategy now gives Australia something to play for, wherein lies India's best chance.
If the batting team drops anchor and just stays there, there's little the bowling can do. Especially when the batting team is Australia and the bowling team is India.
Australia can easily play 100+ overs, because they're that good.
The non-follow-on strategy now gives Australia something to play for, wherein lies India's best chance.
ReallyCrazy
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that ****er steve bucknor is full of bull****. langer was out LBW twice in 2 overs and he says not out. he is insane. he should get his ****in head checked. what an *******
luckyeddie
Cricket Web Staff Member
I thought that AA's second LBW shout was a cracker. How significant could that decision be?