*Official* India in Australia Thread

[iamdavid]

Where's that chin music now boys?

Its on the comeback trail & reports it should return for New South Wales in the coming weeks , a possible recall late in the VB series & a virtual certainty for Sri Lanka.

 

[luckyeddie]

I understand that they are planning on using Brett Lee as a 'shock tactic' in future...

as in 'it will be a shock if he makes the side again'

 

[Jono]

Its on the comeback trail & reports it should return for New South Wales in the coming weeks , a possible recall late in the VB series & a virtual certainty for Sri Lanka.

I think it should be dropped for good, and left to rot. How about bowling line and length with accuracy? That generally gets wickets.
*Points at the great Gillespie*

 

[Neil Pickup]

Well it's been an absolute belter of a series, and credit to Ganguly for the aggressive declaration.

It will be a miraculous chase should the convicts pull it off, but I wouldn't count it out totally (even if Bracken and MacGill appear to have trouble working out which end of the bat to hold) purely because they are Australia and have the right psyche.

I know they will make a shot of it - it's un-Australian not to - but if India can pull it off then I think this will rank alongside the Australians' win in the West Indies as the end of an era. Who will take over the pre-eminent slot as World Number One?

Whoever can get a decent bowling attack together.

At present, the top tier of bowlers in the world is:

Gillespie
Shoaib
Pollock

And that is it.

 

[krkode]

I'm kinda surprised he declared with Dravid on 91*

I can understand the "team cause" but is there no room whatsoever for some individual likeness? I would've given him another over to go for it... :rolleyes:

:P

 

[luckyeddie]

I'm kinda surprised he declared with Dravid on 91*

I can understand the "team cause" but is there no room whatsoever for some individual likeness? I would've given him another over to go for it... :rolleyes:

:P

Dravid had just been bashed on the noggin and looked decidedly shaky.

Good call in my opinion. If he had given him another over and he hadn't got there, then another, we would have had the farce of just 2 overs before stumps at the Aussies (4 wasn't ideal).

 

[iamdavid]

I think it should be dropped for good, and left to rot. How about bowling line and length with accuracy? That generally gets wickets.
*Points at the great Gillespie*

Actually mate I was refering to Glenn McGrath :P

Certainly Lee should be left out , still a ODI mainstay but he aint got nothing in the longer form & its been that way since June 2001 now , enough is enough , bring on Inness.

 

[ReallyCrazy]

ok im gonna vote for an Indian win!

Ganguly at first was waiting for dravid to make the 100 but when he got hit on the ear, he declared.

 

[Bapu Rao Swami]

India is on the threshold of her greatest cricketing achievement eclipsing 1971 and 1983.

For Australia to win there has to be a 20 inch snow fall in Bihar tomorrow :P If the Aussies get more than 250 then they can hold their heads high. India should be able to win the match quite comfortably unless the weather gods intervene.


Anil, Murali and Sachin should weave a spinning web on the Aussies tomorrow.



When the ball pitches on the rough it behaves like a spitting cobra. It is not easy to play defensively on this track when you have four or five fielders around you. Except Waugh I can't think of any Aussie batting defensively. Anil Kumble on an uneven track is doubly lethal and I can't think of any escape route for the Aussies.


Go India! We are ready to explode with victory celebrations tomorrow.
:P

 

[CDAK]

I believe that presence of McGrath couldn't have helped to change the happenings of this series. Probably he might have got rid of the openers easily( in a few innings and not in all).
* During TVS cup, people said if atleast Gillespy was there; still they performed.
* Gillespy was included; but it didn't help to finish the Indians...
*then they said if Lee was there
*When Lee was included nothing changed, so they said if Gillespy was there with lee; so that's also done;yet nothing changed...(Indians started scoring double hundreds)
* Now they say,if McGrath was there,....

I say " nothing would have changed as Indians might tune themselves to McGrath justlike they did against Lee, warne, McGill."
McGrath is not atall a threat in onedayers.

 

[V Reddy]

I think Australia have a decent chance of winning this. India scored around 5 per over with ease yesterday and so it wouldn't be that hard for Aus if they keep wickets in hand. If Aus are around 120/1 or 0 then they will be able to do it. As normally they would score around 4 per over and in this match the scoring rate has been even higher. So no reason why can't win. Other than Kumble there is no other bowler who can control the runrate.

Btw, Bapu you were few days back you were praising Aussies and now you are saying that Aus would do well to cross 250 even though the pitch is good for batting and that India has only one bowler who can really take wickets in Kumble :saint: . IMO, they would have done badly if they don't score more than 340 considering the r.p.o. in this match, good batting pitch and the Indian bowling.

 

[CDAK]

I think Australia have a decent chance of winning this. India scored around 5 per over with ease yesterday and so it wouldn't be that hard for Aus if they keep wickets in hand. If Aus are around 120/1 or 0 then they will be able to do it. As normally they would score around 4 per over and in this match the scoring rate has been even higher. So no reason why can't win. Other than Kumble there is no other bowler who can control the runrate.

You have the point Reddy. I too feel it's not at all going to be a difficulty for AUS to chase 440 with only Kumble is there and one cannot think Kumble can perform the same in the second innings too) .
That's Y I said, it's going to be win awarded by India.(India could have played a safe hand by allowing Sachin to score his 33rd 100 and thus by ensuring they won't be defeated.)but they didn't and gave a chance to Steve to celebrate his farewell ... Anyway, nice and great heart saurav"

 

[krkode]

I believe that presence of McGrath couldn't have helped to change the happenings of this series. Probably he might have got rid of the openers easily( in a few innings and not in all).
* During TVS cup, people said if atleast Gillespy was there; still they performed.
* Gillespy was included; but it didn't help to finish the Indians...
*then they said if Lee was there
*When Lee was included nothing changed, so they said if Gillespy was there with lee; so that's also done;yet nothing changed...(Indians started scoring double hundreds)
* Now they say,if McGrath was there,....

I say " nothing would have changed as Indians might tune themselves to McGrath justlike they did against Lee, warne, McGill."
McGrath is not atall a threat in onedayers.

I agree that saying "if McGrath was there things would be different..." is a ridiculous excuse. It may be true, but that doesn't matter. The fact that he's not there, is the point. If India and Pakistan didn't separate many years ago, Wasim Akram would be playing for India and Australia would be pipped. :rolleyes:

I can throw you every "if" in the state of Kansas. It's not worth talking about.

However, I cannot agree with your calling McGrath threatless:

India can thrash Lee around, they can ridicule McGill, and they can defy Gillespie but if there's one bowler the Indians cannot underestimate, it's Glenn McGrath. :O

McGrath is a threat any where, any time, any how, any way, every way. Fear him. :ninja:

*shudder*

I would value it if the Indians treated him with scorn, though

 

[mustang]

All signs point to a draw here. 440 odd runs in a day are a bit of an ask even if Australia played 3 Gilchrists and 3 Haydens.
Australia's aggression and India's patience will be tested simultaneously.

 

[krkode]

I just hope the Indians don't go semi-defensive to save the obvious run-fest that the Aussies are going to bring about.

Go all-out! :P

 

[aussie_beater]

Well, its quite a repeat of history for Waugh here. Australia was made to follow on by India at the SCG in 1985-86 in what was Waugh's 1st or 2nd test and Australia escaped with a draw on day five losing 6 wickets but still holding on. Let's see what happens this time around.

 

[marc71178]

Is he giving Australia a go at the win? Because if Australia follow-on, there's NO way they can win...now they possibly can...

Had Aus followed on I think a draw would be far more certain than if Ind bat again.

Following on, Aus could have just as big a winning chance as well IMO, as another 450 or so would have left a tricky target.

 

[marc71178]

So even if AUs wins, it can be said as a victory awarded by India.

I disagree, if Australia win it'll be a win borne out from playing some sensational cricket.

 

[marc71178]

It won't be closed (unless there are 'other reasons' - but a few days after the series ends, it will be 'un-topped' and it will die a natural death (probably in about September 2006).

When Amits will be unbanned and will dig it up again!

 

[marc71178]

If they could bowl Kumble at both ends they would. Whats the record for the number of overs a bowler has bowled in a day's play. I think Kumble will give it a shake tomorrow.:P

Murali had 44-24-44-3 in Kandy 3 or 4 weeks back.