*Official* India in Australia Thread

[shankar]

Those 2 balls to waugh and gilchrist were reminiscent of the great Wasim Akram....and have u noticed that he's started shifting the ball from his rt. hand to his left hand just before his leap like wasim

 

[Tim]

Pathan is a great prospect, but he's no Wasim Akram....Akram at the same age was bowling 145 km's or even higher & terrorising batsmen with pacey short deliveries too.

I don't know if its all that great trying to copy a great bowler...why haven't thousands of young New Zealanders copied Sir Richard Hadlee's action? a certain action may not necessarily be best for anyone else.

 

[mustang]

If they don't bat till after lunch tomorrow, they'll have gotten the follow-on! So India won't bat again, unless it's a small chase later on...

All depends on Ganguly. Australia needs another 163 runs to avoid follow on, I strongly doubt OZ will get that - Katich is the spit holding them together. Lee, Dizzy, MacGill & Bracken are not good bats.

Now this means India will very likely play 2 complete sessions tomorrow (I just can't see Ganguly asking OZ to bat again). So Ganguly bat once more to increase the lead - he'll certainly declare by end of Day 4, certainly

That gives Oz three sessions to chase about 375 to 450 runs!!

I actually think OZ is capable of doing that, but to be realistic this match is a certain draw!! :saint:

The problem was Ganguly used the first two days all to himself, he should've initially declared at about 550 max!

 

[V Reddy]

Those 2 balls to waugh and gilchrist were reminiscent of the great Wasim Akram....and have u noticed that he's started shifting the ball from his rt. hand to his left hand just before his leap like wasim

The same was said about Nehra too:P . Now he has lost the ability to swing the ball and hence not as good anymore . But i think Pathan will turn out better than Nehra. He has the ability to get reverse swing too.

 

[V Reddy]

All depends on Ganguly. Australia needs another 163 runs to avoid follow on, I strongly doubt OZ will get that - Katich is the spit holding them together. Lee, Dizzy, MacGill & Bracken are not good bats.

Now this means India will very likely play 2 complete sessions tomorrow (I just can't see Ganguly asking OZ to bat again). So Ganguly bat once more to increase the lead - he'll certainly declare by end of Day 4, certainly

That gives Oz three sessions to chase about 375 to 450 runs!!

I actually think OZ is capable of doing that, but to be realistic this match is a certain draw!! :saint:

The problem was Ganguly used the first two days all to himself, he should've initially declared at about 550 max!

I would be very surprised if Ganguly doesn't let Aus follow on if he gets the chance to do so. If that happens then that will negate any chance India had of winning the match. Bowlers would be tired but i expect Ganguly to let Aus follow on.

 

[shankar]

Pathan is a great prospect, but he's no Wasim Akram....Akram at the same age was bowling 145 km's or even higher & terrorising batsmen with pacey short deliveries too.

I don't know if its all that great trying to copy a great bowler...why haven't thousands of young New Zealanders copied Sir Richard Hadlee's action? a certain action may not necessarily be best for anyone else.

Come on...I'm obviously not comparing pathan and Akram!!!
I just said that the balls were reminiscent of akram's yorkers to tail-enders with the slightly round-armish action.

w.r.t to the action, I dont think that pathan is copying wasim's action...just that he's started shifting the ball from rt. to left hand just b'fore delivering (like wasim )which is not a bad thing to do since he was swinging it both ways and didnt want the batsman to know which one he was bowling.

 

[Tim]

I too think Pathan will be better than Nehra.

Pathan is getting reverse swing and that immediately gives him a huge advantage over Nehra who doesn't really have much to offer once the ball has lost its shine.

 

[shankar]

I too think Pathan will be better than Nehra.

Pathan is getting reverse swing and that immediately gives him a huge advantage over Nehra who doesn't really have much to offer once the ball has lost its shine.

plus pathan seems a good bat.India desperately needs a tail-ender who can bat....i'm not sure nehra knows which end of the bat he has to hold

 

[Tim]

Pathan looks a good #9....he rides his luck, but so what? he's there to do the job with the ball & if he can chip away 10 or 15 runs then thats great.

 

[CDAK]

Nehra in his first series(in ZIM tour) was having his speed in 130s.(133 best).Later he changed his action a bit and bacame the fastest ever Indain bowler .But after his injury, he is now only a shadow of his own capability.
Pathan can improve his pace for sure. I think he got some help hints from Wasim. Srinath improved as class bowler from the tips he got from Waqar & Wasim,

 

[Tim]

I can't believe before the W.C, Nehra was bowling around 135 km's in New Zealand..then when he got to the World Cup he was up near 150 km's and now he's back down to the mid to low 130's.

Pathan isn't like a Sami where he can firstly use pace to keep a batsman on his toes, but he can become a threat later on when the ball is old & if he can produce more balls like that of the one he bowled to Adam Gilchrist i'd pick him over Nehra every time.

 

[CDAK]

I can't believe before the W.C, Nehra was bowling around 135 km's in New Zealand..then when he got to the World Cup he was up near 150 km's and now he's back down to the mid to low 130's.

Pathan isn't like a Sami where he can firstly use pace to keep a batsman on his toes, but he can become a threat later on when the ball is old & if he can produce more balls like that of the one he bowled to Adam Gilchrist i'd pick him over Nehra every time.

Sami is different.. he is one of the most attacking,intelligent bowlers now international cricket and one of the prolific wicket takers for Pak in both versions of the game.
Nehra is not a monkey with bat.He can bat and can swing it for six too. But now he is fully out of touch just like AA.

 

[Craig]

I dont think AA is good enough for number 8. Pathan should bat there.

AA backlift is so funny. It starts off fine and then the bat goes from to point and backaround again, Joel Garner would have bowled AA in his sleep during Big Bird's hey day.

 

[CDAK]

I dont think AA is good enough for number 8. Pathan should bat there.

AA backlift is so funny. It starts off fine and then the bat goes from to point and backaround again, Joel Garner would have bowled AA in his sleep during Big Bird's hey day.

I too felt the same on his back lift. He never seems to be capable batsman with those type of action. But the reality is he is a handful batsman who can hit sixes in a row. He is a batsman turned bowler. probably the batsman in him is not getting enough practice now a daya.( he got the fastest ODI 50 for India. He has a 100 in test and 95 in ODI).

 

[masterblaster]

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[masterblaster]

Pathan looks solid while batting, I once again think he will be a star for India in the future.

 

[mustang]

It was interesting to watch the way Langer and Hayden threw their bats at the ball as if there is no tomorrow. If Virender Sehwag is called "reckless" then we should we call Langer "Daft". It was ridiculous to see the openers throw away their wickets in a casual way. Okay. We might argue that those who live by the sword will die by it. But Australia needs to know how to save test matches. Buchanan needs to reprimand Langer and Hayden for their acts.

 

[CDAK]

It was interesting to watch the way Langer and Hayden threw their bats at the ball as if there is no tomorrow. If Virender Sehwag is called "reckless" then we should we call Langer "Daft". It was ridiculous to see the openers throw away their wickets in a casual way. Okay. We might argue that those who live by the sword will die by it. But Australia needs to know how to save test matches. Buchanan needs to reprimand Langer and Hayden for their acts.

In one view, it is good cricket by austrlia that they need a result either victory or defeat. For that they'd to play in a hurry like they did today. But the same attitude took the Second test from them.They should know how to play in the old classic test style to avoid defeat( Micheal Bevan was the best man for that).

 

[bennyr]

An observation:

I was lucky enough to be at the game today, and I saw something I have never seen before and I believe I will never see again.

A wicket fell, bringing Adam Gilchrist to the wicket, and a large percentage of the crowd left to go home.

:wow:

 

[shankar]

An observation:

I was lucky enough to be at the game today, and I saw something I have never seen before and I believe I will never see again.

A wicket fell, bringing Adam Gilchrist to the wicket, and a large percentage of the crowd left to go home.

:wow:

Yeah I noticed that too,on TV. It was really odd...it shows how much they adore steve waugh