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***Official*** India in Australia ODIs 2016

Prince EWS

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Why isn't Carlos Brathwaite selected in the WI squad?
His bowling would get pumped in T20 and his batting isn't quite good enough to be selected on the strength of it alone given he only averages 14 domestically. I think it's a fair enough omission when you look at who else they picked, especially given Sammy is captain.
 

weldone

Hall of Fame Member
I get that there are too many good pace-bowling all-rounders for T20 with Sammy, Bravo, Pollard, Russell
...the complete opposite scenario compared to India - Carlos Brathwaite is so much better than Hardik Pandya.

Btw Crib, you also know very well that average doesn't mean much in case of Brathwaite, as his batting has improved A LOT in the last few months.
 

Prince EWS

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Btw Crib, you also know very well that average doesn't mean much in case of Brathwaite, as his batting has improved A LOT in the last few months.
Yeah, I just don't think it's enough to get him picked primarily as a batsman, and the other allrounders they've selected ahead of him are either pretty conclusively better, or captain.

He'd make other teams, but I think his omission is fair enough. This just supports the idea of them having a strong side on paper, really.
 

Daemon

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Oh boy, that Yuvraj knock doesn't inspire much confidence does it? Yeah he belted a couple and ended it well but you get the feeling he's going to fail more often than not.
 

honestbharani

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Depends, really. If he is in good hitting rhythm, and he is gonna bat 6 most likely for us, it might work out well. And SL have a number of spinners too, whom Yuvi might be able to tonk away a bit more easily than guys with a bit more heat behind the ball. At least, I hope it is not a false dawn.
 

weldone

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Yuvraj at 6 doesn't sound very good at this stage...I think Dhoni should give him more than 5 overs to play....Yuvraj is not the kind of player who can come in the 20th over and confidently hit from ball one always...

I'd personally take Rahane over Yuvraj. Raina can very well do the job of 6th bowler on Indian pitches....Yuvraj can stay as a reserve for when Raina/Rahane under-perform...If Harbhajan can stay as a reserve, I don't see why Yuvraj can't
 

weldone

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Just wondering-

Is this the first time a touring team has whitewashed Australia in a bilateral series in any format?

I don't remember any other instance - but maybe I'm forgetting something obvious
 

Black_Warrior

Cricketer Of The Year
Just wondering-

Is this the first time a touring team has whitewashed Australia in a bilateral series in any format?

I don't remember any other instance - but maybe I'm forgetting something obvious
Lol do you use social media at all? That's all the Indian fans have been bragging about :laugh:
 

Senile Sentry

International Debutant
Good to see India bouncing back to level the series 4-4. CBF to be bothered much about the whole series which has been pretty shambolic from pitches perspective and context but still a win is a win.
 

Senile Sentry

International Debutant
And oh yeah so happy to see Virat Kohli going guns. He has literally owned Australia thus far in his career, averaging over 57 across all formats (with over 2500 runs and 11 centuries). In tests he averages over 60 and especially 62 in Australia, in ODIs he averages 55 and in T20s 53. That is some ownage.
 

TheJediBrah

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And oh yeah so happy to see Virat Kohli going guns. He has literally owned Australia thus far in his career, averaging over 57 across all formats (with over 2500 runs and 11 centuries). In tests he averages over 60 and especially 62 in Australia, in ODIs he averages 55 and in T20s 53. That is some ownage.
meh not really. Not that much better than his career average tbh.

Steve Smith averages 93 v India in Tests, and 66 in ODIs and I still wouldn't say he's owned them. He's just a good player.

Now if you were to say a guy averages 80 or 90+ over a long period of time against someone, that's ownage
 

morgieb

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meh not really. Not that much better than his career average tbh.

Steve Smith averages 93 v India in Tests, and 66 in ODIs and I still wouldn't say he's owned them. He's just a good player.

Now if you were to say a guy averages 80 or 90+ over a long period of time against someone, that's ownage
In Tests it's a fair bit better than his career average in fairness.
 

Senile Sentry

International Debutant
meh not really. Not that much better than his career average tbh.

Steve Smith averages 93 v India in Tests, and 66 in ODIs and I still wouldn't say he's owned them. He's just a good player.

Now if you were to say a guy averages 80 or 90+ over a long period of time against someone, that's ownage
The difference being Smith is a home bully (his test average in India being 40). Virat on the other hand has pummelled Australia in Australia as well.

Plus Virat's stats are across more than one series and one format. He has consistently scored everywhere against Aus and more importantly in Australia. And we are talking of 52 innings which is a bloody good sample - and over 2500 runs.
 

Daemon

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meh not really. Not that much better than his career average tbh.

Steve Smith averages 93 v India in Tests, and 66 in ODIs and I still wouldn't say he's owned them. He's just a good player.

Now if you were to say a guy averages 80 or 90+ over a long period of time against someone, that's ownage
How much higher or lower his average against them is and whether he's a good player or not is irrelevant.

Bradman could've averaged 60 against England and he'd still have 'owned' them.
 

Top_Cat

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The difference being Smith is a home bully (his test average in India being 40). Virat on the other hand has pummelled Australia in Australia as well.

Plus Virat's stats are across more than one series and one format. He has consistently scored everywhere against Aus and more importantly in Australia. And we are talking of 52 innings which is a bloody good sample - and over 2500 runs.
Not disputing Kohli the superior performer but Smith's also only played 2 Tests in India. That average of 40 is pretty unlikely to stay put.
 

Daemon

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It's also worth putting out there now for the noobs that Senile Sentry is a reknowned troll, so when arguing with him please tread carefully and don't turn the thread to ****.
 

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