*Official* Fourth Test (Old Trafford, Manchester) 19-23 July

[G. S. Kohli]

Yeah will be kicking ourselves for years to come

180 lead might okayed koz both coach Baz & Stokes aware of Rain on day 5

(90 to 100 %)

at the time of toss

 

[ripper868]

Oh I’m still in Athens mate. We’re picking up a cruise tomorrow so we had no choice other than to have one of us go back for it. She’s got gold FF status so gets the baggage allowance big enough to bring them back.

Will be claiming the cost of her flights from BA though, given it was their **** up which led to all this. And for the cancelled tour to Sounion we were meant to be going on this evening for sunset.

What ever shall you do all alone in Greece for a day?

Nightmare to have to deal with the bags like that, big kudos mrs burge taking it on. Best wishes to the BA staff indeed!

 

[Burgey]

What ever shall you do all alone in Greece for a day?

Nightmare to have to deal with the bags like that, big kudos mrs burge taking it on. Best wishes to the BA staff indeed!

Mrs Burgey was always going to take it on tbh. She’s the sort of person who will stress less doing a london and back trip in 10 hours than she would have sitting here waiting and hoping BA would get them on a flight. Pain in the arse though, ruined this little leg of our trip, but at least gives us an excuse to come back.

 

[G. S. Kohli]

Puddles of water beginning to form on the outfield with more rain around the corner, things
are only going to worse.

Home team declaring too early in Birmingham and declaring too late in Manchester,

Well anyway
West indies over night 229/5

new ball taken
Now 255/9*
Siraj 4 for 60

India A need 353 to beat Pakistan A in final

 

[GIMH]

I really don’t see how you can say a declaration makes this one okay. We likely have to chase in that case and still need more time.

 

[Spark]

I really don’t see how you can say a declaration makes this one okay. We likely have to chase in that case and still need more time.

You might but the most difficult and important task was always going to be taking ten wickets. 30 overs was more than anyone was expecting yesterday, so it didn't seem to me like you'd given yourselves enough time to bowl us out.

Having said that, for Aus to see out 70 overs with some margin is a good achievement. I honestly expected a rapid folding after the pounding we got in the field, and thought it would be a very close run thing if we did end up holding out til the rain came.

 

[hazsa19]

It's a real shame for the wider game that we won't get a series decider at the Oval.

These series, were you get 2 such evenly balanced teams don’t happen very often.

Often in test cricket, the result of individual tests and series is pretty predictable. If can often be 4 or 5 days to reach the inevitable conclusion.

But this series wasn't like that and it could be another 20 years before we see another Ashes one so hotly contested.

There were reports of putting the Oval test on free to air too. Doubt that’ll happen now.

 

[G. S. Kohli]

Puddles of water beginning to form on the outfield with more rain around the corner, things
are only going to worse.

Home team declaring too early in Birmingham and declaring too late in Manchester,

Well anyway
West indies over night 229/5

new ball taken
Now 244/8,*

Ind A need 353 to beat Pakistan A in final

TBF looking at the radar it does seem like the rain is clearing over Northern Wales. Not sure if the rain stops at 3pm but if the current radar patterns persist it might not completely be curtains?

I think an hour to mop up is too generous though. Seems a lot of rain has fallen so you'd probably need two.

Still seems very unlikely we'll get back on.

Why they need 2 hours to dry out when they have latest Equipment?

So you Assumes it could stops by next 30 or 37 minutes, right?

My sister in Uk she told me test matches not continued in England after 7 pm

is it true?

 

[Ashes81]

I think there needs to be more flexibility in the playing conditions to allow start and finishing times to alter due to the weather.

Other sports do it - in golf if there's bad weather around they move the tee times so that the tournament can be finished.

The match referee should be able to move start and finishing times. On Friday, the players came off in perfect conditions when there was still over 10 overs to go - no other sport would do that.

Nowhere near enough is done to get the players on the pitch for the maximum time possible in test matches.

 

[wpdavid]

Frustrating, but kind of serves us right for throwing away the first two. You have to take your chances when they come along. Ah well.

 

[Gob]

I think there needs to be more flexibility in the playing conditions to allow start and finishing times to alter due to the weather.

Other sports do it - in golf if there's bad weather around they move the tee times so that the tournament can be finished.

The match referee should be able to move start and finishing times. On Friday, the players came off in perfect conditions when there was still over 10 overs to go - no other sport would do that.

Nowhere near enough is done to get the players on the pitch for the maximum time possible in test matches.

How many other sports let players play for 6 to 7 hours per day though? Especially fastbowlers?

They are not machines

 

[G. S. Kohli]

okayed its tea
australia 214 for 5*

 

[Gob]

Frustrating, but kind of serves us right for throwing away the first two. You have to take your chances when they come along. Ah well.

How is the second test a throw away?

They were close tests for sure but they weren't Headingley 2019 close. Australia played better cricket and won

 

[GIMH]

How many other sports let players play for 6 to 7 hours per day though? Especially fastbowlers?

They are not machines

But the theory is they should be bowling those overs anyway, whether in 6 or 7 hours etc.

 

[chris.hinton]

I think that’s it guys

Well done to Australia for retaining the ashes

 

[loterry1994]

Frustrating, but kind of serves us right for throwing away the first two. You have to take your chances when they come along. Ah well.

The first test England should have definitely won to need two more wickets with like 60 runs to get you win that 90% of the time. The 2nd test should have never gotten that close, Starc and Smith dropped sitters off Stokes then he played a blinder. Aus should of won by like 100 runs that test

 

[Groundking]

Just turned over from the f1 and this looks ****ed, huge puddles everywhere

 

[Gob]

But the theory is they should be bowling those overs anyway, whether in 6 or 7 hours etc.

Yeah but what if the poor weather does not occur?

Then you could be bowling more than you should

 

[honestbharani]

Australia have been the marginally better side overall and a lot of the problems England had were self inflicted. But still, feel a little bad for England. They have taken it to ridiculous levels sometimes but they are definitely the most watchable side in the world at the moment. And the series has been good enough to deserve a proper decider with the sides going in 2-2 for the last test.

 

[Spark]

I can see the case for make up time but surely yesterday is proof enough that even the most ironclad forecast can't be minute-perfect and you can't be pre-emptively adding overs.