*Official* English Football Season 2006-07

[TT Boy]

His mind did seem to be elsewhere, yes.

 

[Scaly piscine]

Reyes has announced he's played his last game for us & the word in the Sunday papers is Arsene's had enough & wants rid of ASAP.

With Cole it's more guess work on my part. With the new stadium we aren't going to let yer Chavs bully us into accepting less than he's worth, but equally we can't really afford to let a £20mill asset depreciate to a £6-7mill asset in a year's time with just the year left on his contract. Added to that is the fact that Cashley won't exactly be flavour of the month @ New Highbury.

So hypocritical they way you act about outgoing mercenaries, but mercenaries that are having a stint at the CDMs that have no loyalty either and are just furthering their careers and are getting in the shop window you love, until they unsurprisingly want more money or want to play at a good team - then it's back to your loathing again. Really don't get this concept of supporting one group of cheating crybaby foreign mercenaries over another group, you're just subsidising substandard turds and their millionaire playboy lifestyles.

 

[BoyBrumby]

So hypocritical they way you act about outgoing mercenaries, but mercenaries that are having a stint at the CDMs that have no loyalty either and are just furthering their careers and are getting in the shop window you love, until they unsurprisingly want more money or want to play at a good team - then it's back to your loathing again. Really don't get this concept of supporting one group of cheating crybaby foreign mercenaries over another group, you're just subsidising substandard turds and their millionaire playboy lifestyles.

I'm not actually Chairman of Arsenal; I mean you do know that, don't you?

I have no issue with players wanting to leave my club; Pires went because he was offered a two-year instead of one-year deal, fair enough go with my best wishes. What I object to with Cashley is the blatant (& illegal) prostitution of himself to another club & then his having the audacity to a) deny it; & b) somehow blame Arsenal when he was fined for his breach of the FA's rules.

How is that hypocrisy? No double standard that I can see. & whilst Cashley may be a turd, he certainly isn't substandard. Just because he shows the loyalty of a snake doesn't mean he's not a quality player.

 

[Scaly piscine]

I'm not actually Chairman of Arsenal; I mean you do know that, don't you?

I have no issue with players wanting to leave my club; Pires went because he was offered a two-year instead of one-year deal, fair enough go with my best wishes. What I object to with Cashley is the blatant (& illegal) prostitution of himself to another club & then his having the audacity to a) deny it; & b) somehow blame Arsenal when he was fined for his breach of the FA's rules.

How is that hypocrisy? No double standard that I can see. & whilst Cashley may be a turd, he certainly isn't substandard. Just because he shows the loyalty of a snake doesn't mean he's not a quality player.

Well yea Ashley Cole isn't substandard and that's why he's leaving. The only players that stay will be a bit substandard or because they look better playing with mediocre players (such as chief poseur). If you seriously think many of the players have loyalty to the CDMs you're deluded, they're just another franchise picking up players from anywhere for the best buck.

 

[BoyBrumby]

Well yea Ashley Cole isn't substandard and that's why he's leaving. The only players that stay will be a bit substandard or because they look better playing with mediocre players (such as chief poseur). If you seriously think many of the players have loyalty to the CDMs you're deluded, they're just another franchise picking up players from anywhere for the best buck.

Yeah, obviously. That's why Dennis Bergkamp spent 11 years at the club, that's why Vieira spent 9 years at the club, that's why Henry has spent 7 years at the club & just signed a new contract & that's why Fabregas has spurned approaches from Spain. No loyalty there.

Being An Arsenal Man isn't dependent on nationality. No one is more Arsenal than Pat Rice or Liam Brady, yet neither are English. I really think it's time you took the blinkers off.

 

[Scaly piscine]

Vieira... not a great example and was there when the CDMs were a bit more successful anyway. Bergkamp would have retired or sold on later in his career, I'm sure he was just happy to be bringing in some money whilst not being at a lower standard - other than that he was a bit of a turd as shown by his passion for sly elbows. Chief has been explained already. I don't particularly know anything about Fabregas. Players are loyal to Chelsea because of success and money, does that mean they're not a team of mercenaries? No way.

I mean do people support companies like McDonalds and cheer when they have a profit increase? That's what supporting the CDMs is like from my perspective.

 

[BoyBrumby]

Vieira... not a great example and was there when the CDMs were a bit more successful anyway. Bergkamp would have retired or sold on later in his career, I'm sure he was just happy to be bringing in some money whilst not being at a lower standard - other than that he was a bit of a turd as shown by his passion for sly elbows. Chief has been explained already. I don't particularly know anything about Fabregas. Players are loyal to Chelsea because of success and money, does that mean they're not a team of mercenaries? No way.

Christ, you should read what you write sometimes.

You make a completely ridiculous statement about Henry & then are quite satisfied you've "explained it". Of course you have. Who are the best club side around just now? Barca, clearly; who wanted to sign Henry? Yep, Barca again. So in a vain attempt to justfiy your reductive thinking you invent some horsecrap about his being happy to play with a team of mediocrities rather than showing loyalty. Same mediocrities were good enough for Real Madrid & Juve last year & got within 15 minutes of beating Barca too.

You want to try to define "mercenaries" too; is a player a mercenary just because he's paid to play? John Terry has been at Chelsea all his career, Zola was there for 7 years, are they mercenaries too?

 

[Scaly piscine]

You think they'd have stayed if Chelsea had been relegated? Terry and Zola had loyalty up to a point - that is commendable in the world of football, but that tells you more about football than anything else.

Chief didn't go to Barca because he wouldn't get all the ridiculous hyperbole he gets in this country, there's also a good chance he'd be out of starting lineup fairly often.

 

[Pratters]

On what you said on Domenech, Marc. Agree with you 100%.

 

[BoyBrumby]

You think they'd have stayed if Chelsea had been relegated? Terry and Zola had loyalty up to a point - that is commendable in the world of football, but that tells you more about football than anything else.

What's relegation got to do with anything? It was partly thanks to their efforts that they weren't & anyway due to the greatly reduced income the club might've had no option but to sell players to survive.

Not all players leave because they want to; do you really think Phil Neville or Nicky Butt wouldn't give their right arms to be still playing for Man U? Sir Alex obviously thought they were on the way down & moved them on.

 

[Jamee999]

You think they'd have stayed if Chelsea had been relegated? Terry and Zola had loyalty up to a point - that is commendable in the world of football, but that tells you more about football than anything else.

Chief didn't go to Barca because he wouldn't get all the ridiculous hyperbole he gets in this country, there's also a good chance he'd be out of starting lineup fairly often.

Would any of the Chelsea players have stayed if they'd been relegated? Why in the world would you be blindly loyal, when you could be playing a better standard of football?

 

[BoyBrumby]

Chief didn't go to Barca because he wouldn't get all the ridiculous hyperbole he gets in this country, there's also a good chance he'd be out of starting lineup fairly often.

You actually have a point there, however unintentionally. What you call the "ridiculous hyperbole" I think of as the adulation of the Arsenal fans. He can't help but have been moved by that; the man's loved & rightly so.

 

[Matteh]

Scaly's irrational hatred is digging him a hole...

 

[Tom Halsey]

I'm thinking that Mr Scholes might be in danger if "Sir" Alex annoys Steve Goran McLeriksson much...

McLaren has indicated so far that he is nothing like Sven was.

As for Ferguson, it is fairly obvious he deserved his knighthood.

 

[Tom Halsey]

Scum in what, what did he ever do?

Isn't that obvious?

 

[Tom Halsey]

Not all players leave because they want to; do you really think Phil Neville or Nicky Butt wouldn't give their right arms to be still playing for Man U? Sir Alex obviously thought they were on the way down & moved them on.

I'm not sure about that - they weren't getting much first team football after all.

 

[BoyBrumby]

I'm not sure about that - they weren't getting much first team football after all.

Playing is the key verb in my sentence there!

 

[Tom Halsey]

Yes, playing for th Reserves...

 

[GIMH]

McLaren has indicated so far that he is nothing like Sven was.

As for Ferguson, it is fairly obvious he deserved his knighthood.

We've been there before, but once again, if you look at some contenders who don't have knighthoods, then it isn't obvious at all

 

[Tom Halsey]

There are admittedly others who also deserve knighthoods, but so does Ferguson.