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*Official* English Football Season 2006-07

BoyBrumby

Englishman
superkingdave said:
We'll see how Martin O'Neil does, he's vastly overrared for mine, plays horrible football and I'm glad he didn't get the England job, don't like Villa either.
His Leicester played a lot of route one stuff, but that was a case of cutting one's cloth accordingly I think. Better to play basic but effective stuff than win friends by trying to quote-unquote play football & have a quick trip back to the Football League the next year.

His Celtic actually played some decent stuff & (it should be noted) knocked Barca out of Europe only a couple of seasons ago.
 

Craig

World Traveller
Yeah David Marshall had the game of his life and I thought they had a new star with the gloves, have to say he fell back to realialty pretty quickly.
 

superkingdave

Hall of Fame Member
Well whenever I saw Celtic play (which wasn't a lot mind) they weren't playing very attractive football.

Im at a stage where i need to watch good football to restore my faith, the cause of this is the absolute dross served up at Boundary Park last year.
 

Craig

World Traveller
Now for Leicester that wouldn't be so bad now would it?

Staying up and winning it would be a good achievement for them? No?
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
marc71178 said:
Did he really?

What exactly did he do? The Carling Cup?
Four consecutive top ten finishes in the Prem, three Carling Cup finals, two wins. Not too shabby for a team of their size.
 

roseboy64

Cricket Web Content Updater
superkingdave said:
We'll see how Martin O'Neil does, he's vastly overrared for mine, plays horrible football and I'm glad he didn't get the England job, don't like Villa either.
Agree with you there. Overrated.
 

superkingdave

Hall of Fame Member
predictable loss for us on the opening day, im sure Geraint can fill me in on the game, 2 guys sent off in the last 5 mins, from what i hear we had plenty of possesion without looking like scoring.

Although apparently we are signing a guy from Real Oviedo called Diego Cervero
 

TT Boy

Hall of Fame Member
I agree with Superkingdave, I think Martin O’Neill is an overrated manager.
His a very articulate and an inspiring individual but all the teams he has managed from Wycombe Wanderers to Celtic have played complete dreck. Big slow dinosaurs at the back and players such as John Hartson leading the line, very direct but push come to shove a very limited style of football. One, I care not to see at an international level.

All of O’Neill credentials can be summarised in one of first signings at Celtic, Neil Lennon for six million pounds. Which is an outrageous fee for a player so limited in his abilities. But he fitted the O’Neill bill, where flair and talent are not important. He was very ‘lucky’ that he arrived at Celtic with Glasgow Rangers going through all sorts of financial difficulties and the added bonus of a thirty million pound kitty and such un-O’Neill like players at the club, Ľubomír Moravčík and Henrik Larsson. How could one fail, in a two horse league?

That being said, I expect O’Neill to do a good job at the Villa. His got the money, which is impetrative to the man. He would never have took the job, if the money was not available. His a smart man, he knows the score and the various reasons he turned down jobs with ‘bigger clubs’ was the realistically threat of failure, something O’Neill can not comprehend but with this job if things do not work out, he can always use the trump card like at Norwich. Where he can just lament the situation the club was in before he arrived.
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
TT Boy said:
I agree with Superkingdave, I think Martin O’Neill is an overrated manager.
His a very articulate and an inspiring individual but all the teams he has managed from Wycombe Wanderers to Celtic have played complete dreck. Big slow dinosaurs at the back and players such as John Hartson leading the line, very direct but push come to shove a very limited style of football. One, I care not to see at an international level.

All of O’Neill credentials can be summarised in one of first signings at Celtic, Neil Lennon for six million pounds. Which is an outrageous fee for a player so limited in his abilities. But he fitted the O’Neill bill, where flair and talent are not important. He was very ‘lucky’ that he arrived at Celtic with Glasgow Rangers going through all sorts of financial difficulties and the added bonus of a thirty million pound kitty and such un-O’Neill like players at the club, Ľubomír Moravčík and Henrik Larsson. How could one fail, in a two horse league?

That being said, I expect O’Neill to do a good job at the Villa. His got the money, which is impetrative to the man. He would never have took the job, if the money was not available. His a smart man, he knows the score and the various reasons he turned down jobs with ‘bigger clubs’ was the realistically threat of failure, something O’Neill can not comprehend but with this job if things do not work out, he can always use the trump card like at Norwich. Where he can just lament the situation the club was in before he arrived.
Plenty have as I'm sure you're aware. Before he arrived Celtic had won one title in twelve years. Lennon was also a great signing for mine, all the best teams need a defensive midfielder & O'Neill obviously knew what he was capable of. As an Ulster catholic he'd obviously appreciate what it meant to play for Celtic too.

It's their success in Europe that is more impressive to me tho. Due to the limited appeal of Scottish football Celtic's turnover is a fraction of even run-of-the-mill Premiership teams & it showed he can fashion a team to compete with the big boys.
 

superkingdave

Hall of Fame Member
BoyBrumby said:
It's their success in Europe that is more impressive to me tho. Due to the limited appeal of Scottish football Celtic's turnover is a fraction of even run-of-the-mill Premiership teams & it showed he can fashion a team to compete with the big boys.
I think Celtics turnover this year was predicted to be about £58 million, that would put them 8th or 9th in the premiership, and thats in a year where they hardly played in europe.

This is the latest table i can find for Europe

http://www.footballeconomy.com/stats/stats_turnover_14.htm

which puts them 13th in Europe.
 
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BoyBrumby

Englishman
superkingdave said:
I think Celtics turnover this year was predicted to be about £58 million, that would put them 8th or 9th in the premiership, and thats in a year where they hardly played in europe.

This is the latest table i can find for Europe

http://www.footballeconomy.com/stats/stats_turnover_14.htm

which puts them 13th in Europe.
I'm not sure how that's worked out, if it's inclusive of telly revenue or not. But when the new contract kicks in Premiership clubs will get about £40 million per year, Celtic get about £2 mill.

Brian Quinn was whinging about it the other day in Nicky Campbell's column in The Guardian.
 

superkingdave

Hall of Fame Member
BoyBrumby said:
I'm not sure how that's worked out, if it's inclusive of telly revenue or not. But when the new contract kicks in Premiership clubs will get about £40 million per year, Celtic get about £2 mill.

Brian Quinn was whinging about it the other day in Nicky Campbell's column in The Guardian.
Its from the Deloitte report which is the big financial report on football that comes out every year, im pretty sure its overall turnover and includes everything. Celtic are much more reliant on match day revenue that English clubs but given that only Manure and now Arsenal have stadia of the size of Celtic Park they make the ground up in this way.
 

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superkingdave said:
I think Celtics turnover this year was predicted to be about £58 million, that would put them 8th or 9th in the premiership, and thats in a year where they hardly played in europe.

This is the latest table i can find for Europe

http://www.footballeconomy.com/stats/stats_turnover_14.htm

which puts them 13th in Europe.
The current one is

1. Real Madrid (23% matchday, 32% broadcasting, 45% commercial)
2. Manchester United
3. Milan
4. Juventus
5. Chelsea
6. Barcelona
7. Bayern
8. Liverpool
9. Inter
10.Arsenal
11.Roma
12.Newcastle
13.Tottenham Hotspur
14.Schalke 04
15.Lyon
16.Celtic (50% matchday income, 27% broadcasting, 23% commercial)
17.Manchester City
18.Everton
19.Valencia
20.Lazio
21.Rangers
22.Dortmund
23.Bolton
24.Leverkusen
25.Middlesbrough

Admittedly your figures is more related to O'Neill's tenure, tho.
 

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