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*Official* English Football Season 2006-07

Tom Halsey

International Coach
superkingdave said:
He didn't 'get the ball' he touched the ball, imo they are separate things.

His touch did not move the ball significantly away from the Arsenal player, who would still have got the ball if he hadn't been brought down by the challenge.
He got just about as much of the ball as it's possible to get - IIRC the only reason it didn't go further off the Arsenal player's path (can't remember who) was because it hit the Arsenal player almost immediately after the contact and went into his path again.
 

superkingdave

Hall of Fame Member
Tom Halsey said:
He got just about as much of the ball as it's possible to get - IIRC the only reason it didn't go further off the Arsenal player's path (can't remember who) was because it hit the Arsenal player almost immediately after the contact and went into his path again.
so chimbomba touched it, the arsenal player touched it, it went into the arsenal players path again and chimbomba's challenge brought him down...
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
Tom Halsey said:
He got just about as much of the ball as it's possible to get - IIRC the only reason it didn't go further off the Arsenal player's path (can't remember who) was because it hit the Arsenal player almost immediately after the contact and went into his path again.
It was Rosicky.

Not a pen for mine, but I don't know the exact phrasing of the law on tackles, so Dav & Poll (sorry to mention skd in such grim company ;) ) might be right.
 

superkingdave

Hall of Fame Member
IIRC the law is incredibly vague and just lists a number of offenses which result in free kicks if they are deemed careless or reckless by the ref. Don't think it says anything about getting the ball
 

Tom Halsey

International Coach
superkingdave said:
so chimbomba touched it, the arsenal player touched it, it went into the arsenal players path again and chimbomba's challenge brought him down...
Chimbonda more than touched it, it then came off the Arsenal player's path.

Players go down in almost any challenge, whether it got the ball or not, so are you saying that every tackle is a freekick?
 

superkingdave

Hall of Fame Member
Tom Halsey said:
Chimbonda more than touched it, it then came off the Arsenal player's path.

Players go down in almost any challenge, whether it got the ball or not, so are you saying that every tackle is a freekick?
erm no

I'm saying Chimbomba bringing Rosicky down denied him the opportunity to get the ball, rather than Chimbomba touching the ball. Regardless of whether Rosicky meant the touch which put it in his path

Rosicky was lucky the ball rebounded in to his path and Chimbomba unlucky that it did so, but that doesn't change the fact that after any contact with the ball, it was in Rosicky's path and Chimbomba brought him down.

I see it quite often playing football where you challenge someone and you may get a lot of the ball but they end up with the ball as a result of a lucky bounce, bobble or deflection, it's bloody annoying but part of the game.
 

Matteh

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Thanks for that Craig.

Mansfield/Doncaster v Bolton

If only we'd not let in that last minute goal, we'd have made a fair bit of money. :(
 

superkingdave

Hall of Fame Member
Matteh said:
Thanks for that Craig.

Mansfield/Doncaster v Bolton

If only we'd not let in that last minute goal, we'd have made a fair bit of money. :(
Not really, Bolton don't have a huge following even at home, they wouldn't take many to Mansfield (not more than say 1500). You'd have to hope you get on tv, which, with the other ties in the round would be highly unlikely
 

Matteh

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
superkingdave said:
Not really, Bolton don't have a huge following even at home, they wouldn't take many to Mansfield (not more than say 1500). You'd have to hope you get on tv, which, with the other ties in the round would be highly unlikely
Away crowds at Mansfield are hardly huge, so it'd be around 1000 more than usual, plus more Mansfield fans would bother to turn up. Reckon would get double the normal gate number.
 

Craig

World Traveller
Matteh said:
Away crowds at Mansfield are hardly huge, so it'd be around 1000 more than usual, plus more Mansfield fans would bother to turn up. Reckon would get double the normal gate number.
How many is it (Mansfield's home stadium)?

Anyway it has been reported Henrick Larsson will get a 1 millon pounds from his loan at MU. Hakon would probably now, how has his form been?

Anyway here is a fall of grace for you, last year Chelsea were prepared to spend a world record transfer fee for Adriano and now he has been voted the worst player in Serie A :mellow:
 

Craig

World Traveller
Matteh said:
They need one, when i went to Belle Vue two seasons ago it was like a pre-fab bomb shelter.
IIRC their chairman some years ago burnt down a stand to get insurance money? Well tried to...?
 

Tom Halsey

International Coach
superkingdave said:
Rosicky was lucky the ball rebounded in to his path and Chimbomba unlucky that it did so, but that doesn't change the fact that after any contact with the ball, it was in Rosicky's path and Chimbomba brought him down..
Yes but Chimbonda got the ball in a fair challenge. Your whole argument is fairly nonsensical to me - it doesn't matter whether he brought him down or not, he got the ball.
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
Looks like the Spurs & Boro had a rough game today.

While in the CL, good to see Shevy scoring all this debate about him has been pretty dull, reminds me off when Makele first arrived at the Bridge.
 

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